Re: What programs do you make sure are installed on a new Linux

On 11/17/24 2:52 PM, Phillip Frabott wrote:

On 11/17/2024 10:18, Pancho wrote:

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That is bizarre. It is much easier to code, debug, test in a good graphical IDE, even if you are developing console apps.
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 Your assuming that a debugger can even run on such limited memory on the specific CPU being used. Most of my work involves very limited memory constraints. And these aren't x86 compatible processors so it's not like I can debug on the local dev machine. It all has to run on the hardware. so printf() and the occasional rawdump file being stored on an SD card if your lucky enough to get access to a device with an SD card reader is the only real option. Obviously this wouldn't be true for the larger headless systems but I'm not going to have 2 different development configurations for coding embedded devices vs large servers. And GUI's just become distractions anyways. Everything I need is in bash. So if I was to use a GUI I'd be right back into multiple bash windows with no desktop apps anyways, so why waste the resources of GUI when I'm never going to utilize it the way it was meant to be used?
 It's just a different breed of development here. We are very uncommon. But we love it.

   Microcontrollers or similar ? LOVE 'em. Also love
   the DISCIPLINE required to program in super-limited
   speed/mem environments ... something the younger
   set rarely even considers.
   Every "Intro To Computers" should at least require
   an "Arduino Uno" lab  :-)
   Ok ... PIC 12x if you REALLY want them to suffer  :-)
   For a time I often used PIC 12x to emulate some of
   those CD4000 chips you could buy at Radio Shack ...
   esp counters, if extreme speed wasn't required.
   Almost as cheap, and if you wanted them to do
   something a little different then you just changed
   the pgm a little. Needed a DIV7 on inputs for one
   app, and the PIC made it all so easy. If the need
   changed to DIV9, again super-easy. Even a pin or
   two left over to xmit a serial stream to some
   other chips, smarter hardware  :-)