Re: Odd behaviour?

On 05/12/2024 12:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2024-12-05 13:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 05/12/2024 11:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2024-12-05 12:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 05/12/2024 10:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2024-12-05 08:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 04/12/2024 18:41, Rich wrote:

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 03/12/2024 22:24, Andy Burns wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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What I find puzzling is how it appears in the GUI but isn't on the
actual machine file system

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funky characters in filename?
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ls -la | cat -v

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Nope. Still no sign
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I think some part of the GUI environment builds a cache, and its in
that, but not in the real world so to speak

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What is the GUI file browser program you use under Mate?
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Caja
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Many "GUI file browsers" have a tendancy to "combine" plural actual
disk paths into the 'appearance' of a singular view (and "Desktop" is
one of those 'views' that GUI dev's think need this miss-feature).
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So it is possible the file it is located somewhere other than
~/Desktop/ and the GUI is merging together that other location with the
contents of the actual ~/Desktop/, and presenting the combination to
you as "Desktop".
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Hmm. Still doesn't say why it cant be deleted/found Even from the GUI file manager

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Because it would be on another directory.
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But if the GUI knows where it is the GUI should be able to delete it.

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The GUI is not a magician.

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No, but it must have consistent rules. If Caja displays it Caja can delete it and the same for the desktop manager as well
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The fact is it is - or was - a ghost. It only existed as far as I can tell in the GUI cache...

 Sigh...
 The GUI filemanager is just a filemanager, and follows filemanager rules. It displays only ONE directory, not some desktop concoction made of several structures and directories.
 

Well it (caja ) displayed this dead file, but it would not delete it..
So at some level you are in fact wrong.
Both the desktop AND the file manager displayed it and both said they could not access or delete it.
????
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