Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On 12/7/24 5:32 AM, D wrote:

  On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 

On 12/6/24 9:30 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On 2024-12-06, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 01:13:40 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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    Fedora still seems ok - as far as Fedora is OK. The
    Manjaro/Endeavour/Arch end is still OK. Never a fan of Slack, but,
    who knows ...... gotta keep evading suckitude.

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Slack was my first distro. Download in pieces and copy to about 40
floppies.

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When I decided to try Linux I went to the local bookstore and browsed
the Linux books, comparing all the ones that came with an install CD.
I liked Patrick Volkerding's book best, so I wound up starting out
with Slackware 3.5.  I continued with it for several years (and
upgrades), but the lack of a package manager required lots of
application builds from source, which grew tiresome.

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 Slack IS very "raw". There's some good, but a lot
 of bad, in that. You kinda have to be an OS fanatic ...
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 But I'm not 16 anymore.

 Thank you for the review. Then it is not for me. I don't mind _some_ tinkering to improve things, but like you, I'm not 16 anymore and I have a business to run, so this I will remove from the list of my opensuse replacements.

   The problem with 'tweaks' is that future updates WILL
   wanna over-write half your hard work. Preventing that
   is a job unto itself.
   Anyway, Slack HAS its place - it's just not MY place.

I tried several other distros, e.g. Mint and CrunchBang.
Ubuntu was very easy to bring up, but when they switched
to the Unity desktop in release 10, I decided it was time
to move on.  I finally settled on Debian.

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 Well, you COULD get past Unity ...
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 My biggest objections were the 'services' they kept
 pushing hard - indeed could barely install it anymore
 without signing up (shades of M$ !). They also changed
 and/or moved around a LOT of config stuff for NO real
 gain IMHO.
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 Deb - WAS the Solid Foundation - but suddenly became
 just another 'Buntu.
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 So now it's Fedora and Arch derivs.
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 I've heard GenToo is kinda interesting ... and
 there are always the BSDs.

 I was very impressed with FreeBSD when I tried it out 1 year ago. The only thing missing for me was that in order to get anything faster that G-wifi, you had to run a small alpine VM with passthrough, since native drivers did not exist for FreeBSD.

   Yep - they're "behind" in those respects. I don't
   think they even support SAMBA 3, sometimes not
   SAMBA 2. NFS works, but SAMBA has a LOT more
   fine-grained options and is much better with
   M$ workstations attached.
   Servers with conventional wired networking,
   just fine so far as it goes. Eval carefully
   to see if the BSDs do what YOU need with
   minimal angst. Linux skills are mostly OK
   with Unix ... but it's not ALL the same.

I tried to run a snapshot version, and faster than G-wifi did work, but something else was unstable, so I had to leave it for the moment.
 The laptop I tested it on was a (then) 1 year old Asus ExpertBook B5, and everything except the wifi worked flawlessly.
 The Freebsd handbook was absolutely amazing. The documentation is in my opinion, far, far ahead of linux. Suse does have some good guides actually, but I feel BSD is better.

   The BSDs are very very good - for what they're MEANT for.
   The docs ARE extensive - almost TOO .....