Re: "DeepSeek" - China AI App Shakes Up Tech Markets

On 1/27/25 4:23 PM, D wrote:

  On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cjr85l2e4l4t
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14329549/ai-software-tech-google-openai-deepseek-china-startup.html >
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Chinese start-up DeepSeek sent big tech companies into a
spiral with the release of its Artificial Intelligence chatbot.
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DeepSeek's AI Assistant is said to perform on-par with
ChatGPT at a fraction of the price.
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After its release in January 2025, it quickly became the
most-downloaded free app on the Apple Store.
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The US stock market lost $1 trillion overnight as investors
lost confidence in Western dominance in the AI sector.
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 Chinese developers are very CLEVER, no more
 dismissing them. Apparently this system/interface
 was built WAY cheaper than possible in the West.
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 That our Big AI interests could be so easily
 undercut has punished the stock markets -
 especially NASDAQ - today.
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 It remains to be seen if DeepSeek as "as good" as
 Chat and friends - but even if it's just "good
 enough" it represents a PROBLEM.
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 Somebody DID try feeding it some questions about
 China politics ... and it hedged its answers  :-)

 Is it open source? Has anyone compared it fairly? Did china steal the teach and this got a cost advantage? Is it even true?

   It is, allegedly, open source.

So many questions!

   Seems they made it work with a lot fewer good chips
   than western developers imagined possible - which
   means some Different Thinking, different ways to
   leverage the hardware. This different thinking was
   why Japan shot to the top of the tech pyramid in
   the 80s ... brought 'perfection thru simplicity'
   to the clunky US/UK designs.

Regardless, readers of this newsgroup will not surprised when the AI bubble bursts.

   "AI" investment/expectations are decidedly a "bubble"
   at this point. It's gonna go bang. Trump wants to throw
   a lot more money at it, but it may just be throwing
   it into the incinerator. The right time for big govt
   investment would be AFTER the incipent crash, AI 2.0
   so to speak.