Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later

Sujet : Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 29. Apr 2025, 04:02:10

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On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:45:51 -0700, John Ames wrote:

On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 23:15:25 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

Or you could, you know, simply configure your kernel to say “no,
sorry, there’s not enough RAM for that”.

The whole idea of *not* doing that - pretending that resources are
infinite and arbitrarily murdering on the sly to maintain the fiction -
is utterly baffling to me. I'm curious what the rationale is behind it.

I think one reason is that a lot of software is sloppily written to assume
that memory allocations will always succeed.

Another thing to think about is: what if all the system memory is
exhausted, and the superuser tries to login to fix the situation, but
can’t?

<https://manpages.debian.org/proc_sys_vm(5)>

Date	Sujet	#	Auteur
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	49	Eli the Bearded
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	3	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	Eli the Bearded
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	45	Andy Burns
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	42	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	41	Jim Jackson
19 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	39	Richard Kettlewell
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	The Natural Philosopher
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	37	Pancho
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Richard Kettlewell
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	35	Computer Nerd Kev
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Computer Nerd Kev
21 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	33	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	32	Carlos E.R.
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	22	The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	17	Carlos E.R.
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Pancho
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	15	The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	4	Pancho
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	The Natural Philosopher
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Pancho
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	10	candycanearter07
24 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	9	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	8	candycanearter07
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	7	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	6	John Ames
28 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	4	Richard Kettlewell
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	3	The Natural Philosopher
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	Richard Kettlewell
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	The Natural Philosopher
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	3	Richard Kettlewell
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	9	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	8	Carlos E.R.
24 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	7	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	6	Carlos E.R.
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	4	The Natural Philosopher
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	Richard Kettlewell
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	The Natural Philosopher
19 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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