Re: Distros specifically designed for children

On 5/29/25 9:52 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 29 May 2025 17:54:15 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
 

On 5/29/25 15:43, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

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On Thu, 29 May 2025 08:58:11 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
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On 5/28/25 21:24, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

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So what were the problems with systemd, exactly?

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Instability.

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When Debian Unstable adopted it, I didn’t even notice the transition.
That’s how stable it was.
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What kind of instability did you run into?

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Simply said "Failure pf Boot".  I had to re-install repeatedly.
About 04/2016 i found that PCLinuxOS had determined how
to deal with UEFI and went away from Mageia.
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PCLinuxOS uses SysV for init.

 Maybe the two had nothing to do with each other.
 There were additional options you could have tried. For example, did you
know you can tell the kernel to boot straight into a shell, and nothing
more, with something as simple as
      init=/bin/bash
 and completely bypass the entire normal userland init system, just to see
if that works.

   Look folks ... systemd IS a divisive issue, has been
   since the beginning. It DOES have a number of very good
   uses, but some of it is so complex that many wonder if
   there is evil embedded. Don't blame 'em ... if for a
   major biz/industrial server I'd probably stick to
   SysV - just in case. But for lesser, 'home', type
   systems ........
   Frankly for big biz/industrial/finance I would use
   a BSD instead, not Linux. OpenBSD has the best rep
   for 'security' stuff. NOT great for 'desktop' use,
   but that's really not its main thing.
   The very popular 'MX' Linux now DEFAULTS to using SysV.
   However you CAN choose the systemd startup option ...
   easy with GRUB CUSTOMIZER. All of my MX units now
   run systemd because I use the startup, monitor,
   restart options for various daemons. BUT, you don't
   HAVE to do that.
   Making the option easy ... I think that's the thing.