Re: Distros specifically designed for children

On 2025-06-03, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 03/06/2025 03:03, Borax Man wrote:

On 2025-06-02, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

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On 6/2/25 04:35, Borax Man wrote:

On 2025-05-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 31/05/2025 18:27, rbowman wrote:

On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:07:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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Britain had an Empire once that dealt with all sorts of people. We
aren't as insular as Americans.

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Then the chickens came home to roost...

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By which you mean that the former subjects of the Empire were free
to come to the UK if they knew their place and many of their children
are now participating in the governance of the UK and Commonweath.
Or am I wrong about that?
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Now you are being colonised by the former subjects.  Truly colonised in
an irreversible way.  India was able to get rid of you.
 
The UK didn't replace Indian cities with Brits, but India will replace
you.
 

Not really, India is OK.  Indians are very British really.
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Its the Islamic invasion that is rather more worrying.
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Indians are Indians.  They may adopt some customs, but that doesn't
change what you are.

Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a deadly
mistake.
 

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It isn't free, its just a bit less restricted,.
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A people who decide to no longer exist or maintain their nation are just
weak and not worthy of respect.
 

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It isn't the people who decide. It was a cabal of 'elites' lead by the EU.
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Brexit won probably because of misguided notions of "sovreignty".  The
Brexiteers convinced the population that they could be free of foriegn
influence, but those who votes didn't realise that they were an occupied
country anyway.

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Well that is quite close to the truth. The EU was a restrictive tariff
erecting parochial organisation that sought to make a new USSR  based in
Brussels. A United States of Europe. Without democracy. A one party
state. Of unsackable bureaucrats
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Speaking 20 different languages with 20 different cultures each with its
own history.
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With its industries protected from foreign competition and all set to be
a cosy insular little place just like the USA now seems to want to be.
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A 4th Reich modelled on what Hitler failed to do.
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Britain however is a global nation and has been for 500 years. It simply
didn't fit.
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Many people voted for Brexit for the same reason they voted for King
Donald. To get rid of a cosy elite who were fucking things up.
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Except that that elite managed to make Brexit a meaningless piece of
paper. by signing 'big bootiful deals' with the EU that left us more or
less precisely where we were.
But the times they are a changing - the man and the mood that led us to
Brexit is now a political party that is ahead in the polls.
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The people of Britain haven't given up the struggle.
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All across the world the dynamic is changing - the politics and
economics of post war prosperity are pretty much dead.  And even King
Donald won't bring them back again.
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People are turning away from the current elites and looking for fresh
ideas.  Russia is bust and collapsing and so allegedly is China.  In
Europe people are sick of the socialists and their mealy mouthed
morality, and complete lack of competence.
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All we know is that whatever we have, Russia is way worse. Ergo we have
to help put the bastards back in their place.
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If you really want to find out what is happening outside your little
cabbage patch, your simplistic ideas that you have been told about
Britain, the EU, Europe, Russia and Brexit have to go.
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Its not that simple.
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Any more than king Donald is there because at least  half America was
fucking stupid enough to believe he could do what he promised. And
wasn't stupid himself.
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Everyone realises the old ways don't work any longer.  That's the
intelligence of democracies, They may not know what to do but they are
fully capable of shaking things up till someone comes along who does.
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I understand that, but I also understand that placing faith in a
fallible human just because he or she inst the one that sat on the
throne last time, is no guaranteed solution either.
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And believing in tin pot would be dictators who want to stir up hatred
for other nations because they are fresh out of ideas and need someone
else to blame, is a very dangerous religion indeed.
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The USA has never been invaded since the Pilgrim Fathers by a hostile
genocidal nation. Apart from IIRC Pearl Harbour its never had the shit
bombed out of it by people who basically want to destroy it. It copped
out of Korea, It chickened out of Vietnam, and it abandoned Afghanistan
and Iraq.
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It simply doesn't like fighting wars and it isn't very good at it. The
hardware is OK but by and large the people in the military don't like
fighting. Which is a very difficult art to master.
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Fine. No one likes fighting wars except tin pot dictators. But at least
when you need to fight, you ought to learn to be good at it.
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You simply do not understand that Europe has been at war since Hom. Sap,
moved out of hunter  gathering and started to develop herding.
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All the USA did was grab a shitload of land steeped with natural
resources by murdering a few Indians who it used to belong to.
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So your politics reflects that. That's fine, but please do not use that
worldview to judge the rest of the world.
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It is a mistake.
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The reason that the Post WWII order is dead evades a lot of people.

It is dead because the order could never have worked.  It was doomed
from the start.  Its ideals, of open borders, of open societies, were
folly from the start.  Its economics flawed, its whole ideological basis
was unsustainable.

This has nothing to do with Donald or Populists or Brexit, they are
reacting to what the Liberal Order created, a failure.  An invetiable
failure.  Blaming them is like blaming the maid for cleaning, because
you made a mess of the place.

We are seeing now the cope, the denial and the desperate attempts to
keep it going.  If only we could stop people thinking this and that.

I've heard about Russia and China collapsing for years now.  China was
supposed to collapse 10 times over by now.  Again, seething and cope
from a decrepit system.  All lies...