Re: Distros specifically designed for children

Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:

Le 03-06-2025, Rich <rich@example.invalid> a écrit :

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The statement I saw wasn't saying that systemd interfered.  It was
asserting that Wayland itself at some low level enforced the MS Win
method of:
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"giving keyboard focus causes a raise to the top of the window"
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and
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"only the window on top of the stack is allowed to have keyboard focus"
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And thereby stating that when 'wayland' arrived, one would be forced
into the MSWin mindset of "only top most window in stack can have
keyboard focus".
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As I said at the outset, I've long ago lost the reference to where I
saw this comment, so I can't refer to the source.

 
I don't know which reference it is but it's just plain stupid. It's
probably someone like FF/DG/FR/whatever who hates what he doesn't know.
 
Because there is no link between switching from X11 to wayland and
having a computer used in a Windows way. For example, the difference
between i3 and sway is the switch from X11 by the former to wayland by
the later. And the switch don't like more like a Windows way to use one
computer.

As I said, I no longer have the reference to the assertion either.

It, however, did assert that wayland itself did not in any way support
giving keyboard input focus to a window that was not also at the top of
the stacking order (which is exactly how ms windows works, "give
keyboard focus" and "raise window to top of stack" are linked together,
one cannot happen without the other also happening).  The topmost
window is the only window that can have keyboard focus.

Which is why having a random 'warning dialog' pop open from some
background windows app.  steals your keyboard focus and one ends up
typing into the new top level warning dialog, losing anything typed
until one realizes some new window has appeaared.  Very irritating for
touch typists who are looking at a paper and typing stuff from it into
some windows program.

But the other poster here is using focus-follows-mouse and indicating
that each window which receives focus is not also "raised" to the top,
so either the post I saw some years ago was wrong, or in the
interveaning years the wayland crew removed this restriction from
wayland.  I do not know which occurred.