Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why?

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De : nunojsilva (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Nuno Silva)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 08. Jun 2025, 09:53:28
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On 2025-06-08, Rich wrote:

Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]
Open up many webpages and notice how much blank space is on the
sides.  I've just gone to news.com.au, and HALF the screen is just
blank white space.
>
I just went to news.com.au, and only half of my one wide-screen monitor
is occupied by the Firefox window showing news.com.au.  The rest of the
wide screen shows two other Firefox windows that are presently 'behind'
the one displaying news.com.au.
>
Now, in the news.com.au window, the HTML/CSS of news.com.au is itself
only using about 3/4 of the width of the window it has available, with
about a 1/4 width margin of whitespace on the right of the story slugs. 
So yes, news.com.au is not trying to fill out the space they are given. 
So whomever their "designer" was is at fault here.

That may be the designer understanding that beyond a point, using
*horizontal* space is a bad idea, unless they have something that
actually goes well with that.

Mobiles are portrait, heavily so, desktops widescreen, heavily so, so
this results in just a mismatch.
>
And HTML is designed to adapt to whatever viewing portal it has
available.  That is if it were not for "designers" who have a "vision"
of how things should look "just so", and assume that everyone shares
their "vision" and then proceed to force HTML to bend to their
"vision".

HTML should never have evolved into the mess where sites prioritize
"looks the same everywhere" and where Google actively boosts sites which
*add* code to tell Google's browsers "it's okay to handle this as HTML
and 'zoom' as you see fit".

(The end result was that ad-ridden content scrappers ended up
boosted... and nowadays, with or without they intentionally screwing
search results for "more engagement", Google Web Search still seems to
prioritize useless javascript-ridden or https-enforcing websites over
more usable options.)

--
Nuno Silva

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