Re: VMS

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Sujet : Re: VMS
De : c186282 (at) *nospam* nnada.net (c186282)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 21. Jun 2025, 06:17:53
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On 6/20/25 4:57 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 08:40:31 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
 
The software industry has been trying this for decades now. It does not
work.
 There is a safety-critical spec for writing C code. It has been in
production use in the automotive industry for some years, decades now. How
often do you hear about software bugs in safety-critical car systems?
   DOES happen, but very rarely. Hurried 'updates' seem
   to be the main source.
   However, for now, car systems aren't a major target. It's
   banks, govt, infrastructure.
   As I said elsewhere - how do we KNOW the supposed "fixes"
   by post-'C' compliers didn't introduce a lot more potential
   flaws/errors ???
   Face it, our stuff is just TOO COMPLEX these days. It is
   NOT possible to pre-ID all possible flaws/interactions.
   Now a MAJOR cyber-war ... they COULD go after all the
   'connected' cars too - paralyze almost everything. May
   be good to have a pre-Y2K car handy, '64 Ford pickup ...
   all 'dumb-ware'  :-)

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