Re: Almost all Apple native apps die in a short while if you don't log into Cupertino servers

On 2025-06-09 19:59:48 +0000, WolfFan said:

On Jun 4, 2025, Alan wrote
(in article <101qit0$13n57$1@dont-email.me>):

On 2025-06-04 14:19, Marion wrote:

On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 14:20:52 -0400, Joel wrote :
 

If people's biggest problem with Win11 is the account BS, they really
have no concept of what a behemoth the OS is, "Copilot+", yada yada,
it's unreal. Logging in with an M$ account is the least of one's
worries. Real nerds use Linux or Mac.

 What these ignorant trolls don't know is that without the MSA the Windows
system works just fine, just as Android does without a Google Account.
 What even the Apple trolls don't understand is all your software stops
working when you refuse to log into the Apple Cupertino servers.
 One by one, they all drop dead.
Ask me how I know this.
 The only software that doesn't die if you haven't logged into an Apple
account is the software that is updated by the operating system itself.
 That means even Apple's native apps like GarageBand, Pages, Keynote,
Numbers, iMovie, etc., will die in just a short while if you don't log into
Cupertino servers (not to mention that many native Apple apps require a
login to Cupertino servers just to work the way you want them to work).

 This is utterly false.

 Hmm. Checks ancient iPhone SE 1st gen, doesn’t have a SIM, not connected to
wireless... Pages (a very old version) still works. Same with Keynote.
Didn’t try Numbers, no reason to expect that it won’t work. The iPhone SE
was replaced by an iPhone SE 2nd gen, which has now been replaced by an
iPhone 16e (what would have been the SE 4th gen except someone at Apple got
cute) The SE is NINE YEARS OLD. Still works, including the Apple apps which
haven’t been updated in years.
 Checks iPad Pro 1st gen, no SIM, no wireless... Pages works. Keynote works.
Tried Numbers on the iPad, I would NOT be running a spreadsheet on an iPhone,
especxially one as small as an SE, but would have no roblems on an iPad.
Older than the SE. Been gathering dust for years. was replaced by a 4th gen
then by a 7th gen. Hasn’t been updated in years...
 Both are now connected to wireless and updating. Note: both were old company
devices, parked in file cabinets at the office when they were replaced by
newer devices. Both are being brought up to date as much as possible for use
as emergency devices, which probably means they’ll be going back into
storage. (Yes, both can do WiFi Calling, so they can send and recieve phobne
calls. Yes, including the iPad.)
 The main problem was getting the latest versions of some custom (NOT Apple)
apps, created by the company and sideloaded (yes, I know Arlen says that
doesn’t work, he’s wrong) to install. The very latest versions require
newer versions of iOS/iPadOS than coulds work on the ancient hardware, so we
had to step back one version.
 One wonders where m’man Arlen gets these easily refuted lies, and why he
even bothers trying.

 

 None of the Apple trolls understands a word I said above, and so they'll
dispute it, but there are indeed some Apple native apps which are updated
along with the OS itself, which does *not* need an Apple ID to update it.
 Examples are the Phone app, Messages, and the webkit core of Safari, which
are the few apps on iOS that will still work after a while without an Apple
ID.
 Again, the Apple trolls understand *none* of this. All they know is that
Apple requires an Apple ID for anything to work and that, to *them*, means
that an Apple ID is the same as a MSA or a Google ID in terms of limiting
what the user can do.
 There's no comparison when you understand the differences.
But the Apple troll understands none of that.
 It's their way of excusing and defending Apple astronomically Draconian
restrictive Apple ID (i.e., dumb terminal) iOS policies to the death.
 No matter what.
Facts be damned.

 There is a difference between an app "dying" if you don't log in...
 ...and the need to occasionally log in when an application needs an update.

 Arlen’s an idiot.

He doesn't even have enough brains to reach the level of being an idiot. He's a moronic imbecile who needs to be in everyone's killfile/filter.