Re: PSA: The only practical way to preserve iOS apps (IPAs, app data & sub-versions)

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Sujet : Re: PSA: The only practical way to preserve iOS apps (IPAs, app data & sub-versions)
De : mariasophia (at) *nospam* comprehension.com (Maria Sophia)
Groupes : misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.mobile.ipad comp.sys.mac.system
Date : 08. Mar 2026, 18:49:34
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Maria Sophia wrote:
 1. I lost some iOS apps because they are not in Apple's app store     anymore like ValuPak (already e-mailed them about this).
    I assume there's no way to restore them from my old iPhone     and iTunes back up. :(
See also the canonical thread on this topic.
 Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
 Subject: Was your IPA ever in any backup made by iTunes or Finder?
 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 01:42:07 -0500
 Message-ID: <10jd23v$3hr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
The question to answer for Ant would be whether Quick Start preserves app
settings, which it should do because Quick Start copies the entire iOS
installed app bundle and its associated data, not just the user documents. This is different from iCloud or Finder/iTunes backups, which only restore
app data and then re-download the app from the App Store. Quick Start
avoids that limitation by cloning the runnable app exactly as it exists on
the source device.
1. What Quick Start DOES preserve
A. Installed app bundle
   i. This is the unpacked IPA (the actual runnable app).
   ii. It includes the executable, resources, frameworks, etc.
   iii. It is copied exactly as it exists on the source device.
   iv. This preserves:
       a. Old sub-versions
       b. Removed-from-App-Store apps
       c. Developer-abandoned apps
       d. Apps incompatible with current App Store downloads
B. App data
   i. Documents
   ii. Saved progress
   iii. Local databases
   iv. User-created content
C. App settings
   i. In-app settings
   ii. Preferences stored in UserDefaults
   iii. Local config files
   iv. Non-purgeable caches
   v. Anything inside the app's sandbox
D. System settings
   i. Home screen layout
   ii. Wi-Fi settings
   iii. Accessibility settings
   iv. Keyboard dictionaries
   v. Notification settings
   vi. Privacy permissions
   vii. Many other device-level preferences
2. What Quick Start DOES NOT preserve
A. Apps that cannot run on the target iOS version
   i. The bundle is copied, but it may not launch.
B. Apps that require re-authentication
   i. Banking apps
   ii. Enterprise apps
   iii. Secure messaging apps
   (These enforce server-side login resets.)
C. Settings stored only in iCloud
   i. Some apps sync settings from iCloud instead of storing them locally.
3. Why Quick Start preserves settings but backups do not
A. iCloud and Finder/iTunes backups DO NOT include:
   i. The IPA
   ii. The installed app bundle
   iii. The app version
B. Backups only include:
   i. App data
   ii. System settings
C. During restore, the device re-downloads the app from the App Store.
   i. If the app is gone, you lose it.
   ii. If the version changed, settings may break.
   iii. If the developer removed compatibility, restore fails.
D. Quick Start avoids all of this by copying:
   i. The installed app bundle
   ii. The entire sandbox
   iii. The exact sub-version
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Mar 26 * PSA: The only practical way to preserve iOS apps (IPAs, app data & sub-versions)4Maria Sophia
8 Mar 26 `* Re: PSA: The only practical way to preserve iOS apps (IPAs, app data & sub-versions)3Maria Sophia
8 Mar 26  `* Re: PSA: The only practical way to preserve iOS apps (IPAs, app data & sub-versions)2Maria Sophia
8 Mar 26   `- Re: PSA: The only practical way to preserve iOS apps (IPAs, app data & sub-versions)1Maria Sophia

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