Re: Degrees of Seperation!!

Blueshirt brought forth:

solar penguin wrote:
 

The True loon lost it again:
 

On 10/11/2024 11:03, The Last Doctor wrote:

 
I’m no fan of Kier Starmer but the seven (not 6) MPs who
were suspended (not sacked) from the Labour Party for 6
months were penalised for ignoring the whip on not removing
the 2 child cap on child benefit (not the winter fuel
allowance). That’s a common thing for British parliamentary
parties to do, it’s a yellow card for not toeing the party
line. If the 7 had abstained in the voting (like 42 other
Labour members) rather than opposing the government, they
would not have been subject to the discipline. It’s a
rather odd sort of punishment - all it means is that the MPs
have to be treated as independent members and aren’t
officially part of the Governing party for the duration.
Boris Johnson suspended 21 MPs for voting against the
Government on an EU motion in 2019. The Tory government
since the 2019 general election withdrew the whip
permanently from 18 members in 2020-2023, with the result
that independent ex-Tories outnumbered the Lib Dems as the
fourth largest “bloc” in Parliament in 2023-2024.  >>
So accusing Starmer of being a despotic dictator is a
lunatic stretch to begin with. As for the rest -Christ on a
crutch. There are no words.

 
Stop with the nonsensical word salad and obfuscation.
 
Did he or did he not take away the winter fuel payments from
old age pensioners?
 
Regardless of whether it was 6 or 7 MPs that he sacked and
what it was for, or who else carried out similar actions the
past, Starmer proved himself to be a tyrant and a despot. By
this action he used threats, blackmail, fear and
intimidation in order to control the votes of elected
members of parliament. These are the actions of a dictator.
 
Starmer took away pensioners' winter fuel payments knowing
that without them they would be more likely to die of the
cold and therefore he would not have to keep paying their
pensions. Then after that he decided to wreak more vengeance
on the people that voted for him and those who did not by
putting up taxes to the tune of £40 billion, in the biggest
cash grab in history, despite being warned by experts that
this would destroy the economy, cause businesses to go bust
or leave the country, and force people to lose their jobs.
 
Starmer just as George Orwell predicted in "1984" also tried
to redefine the term "working people" so that it could only
have one precise meaning that could not be used to argue
against his English Socialist party's, (Ingsoc in newspeak,
Scottish Labour being Scotsoc) ideology.
 
A working person is no longer someone who works for a living
but someone who receives a monthly pay check but has no
savings over a tenner in the bank to pay for an emergency,
does not have any property, and does not own any shares.
This basically means that almost no one in the country who
is not homeless and destitute is a working person, even if
they have a job.
 
Keir Starmer is a socialist dictator just like Adolf Hitler,
Benito Mussolini, and Joseph Stalin. And don't deny that any
of these were socialists. George Orwell wrote Animal Farm
and 1984 to warn people of the dangers of socialism, basing
Ingsoc on the Nazis or National Socialist German Worker's
Party, and Keir Starmer has proven his warning to be true.

 
Oh, look. Aggy’s shifted his goalposts

 
Agamemnon shift goal posts?! Surely not.

And as usual he doesn’t even seem to be aware that he’s doing
it. It’s ironic that Aggy’s a fan of Orwell, since he’s a master of
doublethink!

 

from “Starmer sacked six MPs in order to cut winter fuel
payments,” to “Starmer cut winter fuel payments in order to
meet Orwell’s definition of a socialist.”

 
I don't know what Keir Starmer does or doesn't do over there

That’s OK, Aggy doesn’t seem to know either.

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solar penguin