Re: JodieDoctor ---> The Valeyard???

solar penguin wrote on 30/11/24 11:00 pm:

 Daniel declared:
 

Still reading the Archives .... but thought this might rate a post all
of its own. Back in Jan 1993, in a thread entitled "The Valeyard's TRUE
goals", The Valeyard is raised, you know, the guy The Master says would
appear "between your 12th and last regenerations".
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Spur of the moment ..... could (female) JodieDoctor be The Valeyard??
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No, hang on, JodieDoctor was as a result of the Eleventh regeneration,
*NOT* the 12th regeneration.
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JodieDoctor, in the 12th Regeneration, regenerated into DoctorDavid Mk
2, so could DoctorDavid Mk 2 be The Valeyard??

 Ignoring any possible pre-Hartnell Doctors…
 0 regenerations: Hartnell
 1 regeneration takes us to Troughton
 2 regenerations: Pertwee
 3 regenerations: Tom
 4 regenerations: Davison (“Regeneration?” “Four.” “So there
are five of me now!” from The Five Doctors)
 5 regenerations: Colin
 6 regenerations: McCoy
 7 regenerations: McGann
 8 regenerations: the War Doctor
 9 regenerations: Eccleston (now regeneration number and
Doctor number are in sync)
 10 regenerations: Tennant
 11 regenerations: the Metacrisis Doctor (regeneration numbers are
now out of sync the other way)
 12 regenerations: Smith
 13 regenerations: Capaldi
 14 regenerations: Whittaker
 15 regenerations: Tennant again
 16 regenerations: Gatwa
 So “between your 12th and last regenerations” could mean *any*
Doctor after Matt Smith, probably one we haven’t seen yet.
 (OTOH I wouldn’t be surprised if the Valeyard actually turns
out to be a pre-Hartnell Doctor from the Timeless Child era!)
 

Yeap. O.K., well, maybe, sort of!!
I don't count The Meta-crisis Doctor, ... still DoctorDavid!
As we now KNOW there were heaps of Incarnations prior to DoctorBill, yes, the Valeyard could be one of them.
Also, the Archive thread that I started from also made mention of The Watcher who helped DoctorTom to regenerate into DoctorPeter. Maybe The Valeyard full-filled a similar function somewhere along the line!!
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Daniel