Re: Cinema Ratings

On 05/07/2024 10:33, Blueshirt wrote:

The True Doctor wrote:
 

On 05/07/2024 08:49, Blueshirt wrote:

The True Doctor wrote:
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On 04/07/2024 15:09, The Last Doctor wrote:

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https://www.blogtorwho.com/doctor-who-uk-cinema-box-office-data/?amp=1

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Seems like somewhere between 25,000 and 45,000 people
(depending on what the ticket price was) thought it was a
good idea to turn up to the cinema late on a Friday
night to rewatch “The Legend of Ruby Sunday” on the big
screen and follow it with the premiere of “Empire of
Death” at midnight (simultaneously with its worldwide
streaming drop).
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And before Aggie tries to turn that into “10 paying
customers and 40,000 freebie giveaways that no one
bothered to use” , that estimate is based on cash
takings. The double bill was the fourth biggest cinema
draw of the

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Stop deluding yourself and deceiving people reading. The
BBC paid the cinemas for every one of those tickets when
it booked the theatres for the showings and then tried to
give them all away for free. Even if no one attended a
single performance it still would have counted as 40,000
people watching. That's how the BBC, Disney, and all the
major studios fiddle their cinema audience figures. What
do you think the $200,000,000 publicity budget for a movie
costing $200 million to make is spent on?  I've never seen
a single poster in town for any of them or a single
trailer on TV.
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The record companies do exactly the same thing to fiddle
the charts by paying Spotify and other streamers and radio
stations to insert the artists they want to be number 1
for a particular week into everyone's playlists, even if
the people forced to listen can't stand the artist. All it
takes is 10 seconds to count as a play.
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Provide photographic evidence that all the seats were
filled with real people.

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<face palm>
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You are being a bit silly now...
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Why would the BBC pay cinemas for thousands of tickets just
to give them all away when they broadcast the exact same
episodes on BBC1 and it's available on their iPlayer. That
doesn't make any sense!

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It was a failed publicity stunt. The BBC expected huge numbers
to take the tickets off it but no one did. The seats were
empty and the BBC has not pictures to show for it. Nothing.

 Have you any evidence for this claim?
 

I am not the one making the claim. The BBC is. It is therefore the BBC who is obliged to provide evidence, not me.

I have not read anything that states this. Please tell me you
didn't hear this from some random dude on YouTube?
  

Where were these cinemas? Where are the ticket receipts? Where are the pictures of bums on seats? The BBC is making the claims. The BBC must provide the evidence.
It booked cinemas en mass to show the Doctor Whoke finale. The cinemas did not choose to show it all by themselves. They were made to show it. Allegedly, since the BBC has not even provided evidence of the names and locations of the Cinemas to even begin with. Booking a cinema to show a movie or show counts as a full auditorium even if it's completely empty. The BBC is simply making stuff up.
Why should anyone believe them when almost everything that RTD tells us is a lie? He's the boy that cried Bad Wolf too many times.

So, people had cinema tickets to watch Doctor Who... but they
didn't turn up to watch it?

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They may not have even bothered to apply for them.

 I'm sure a good few did, as I have seen people on Doctor Who

I don't think so.

forums say they were going. I will DM one or two of the ones I

 > know and see if they really did go, or was it all just a
 > publicity stunt!
How do you know those are real people and not BBC sock puppet accounts?
It's well known that advertising, media, and publicity agencies are behind most of these accounts. Ask Elon Musk and he will confirm it.

 

Just WTF are you on?!

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Common sense.

 Common sense is fine if it is based on sound reasoning. But the
BBC paying for thousands of cinema tickets for a TV show that
people can watch on BBC1 anyway doesn't sound much like the BBC!

It sounds like New Lamps for Old, therefore it is an obvious scam. It's nothing more than a publicity stunt.

It's not like they are rolling in cash to throw away on PR
stunts like that.

They have my cash and everyone else's who is forced to pay the BBC licence fee.

 

weekend it ran in the U.K. - even though it was just a
single showing in a limited number of cinemas in the
dead of night.
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Speaking as a lifelong fan, no way I would have done that
unless the tickets WERE free. And maybe not then, I’d
probably fall asleep trying to watch something in
darkness at midnight, at my age.

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There you go. What more proof does anyone need that the
statistics have all been fiddled by the BBC buying up
tickets en mass. Even if they were given away for free the
majority of fans would not have even bothered going just
like you didn't.  Who wants to sit though 2 hours of
boring badly written mind numbing rubbish.
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So there’s a lot of love for the latest incarnation of
the Doctor out there

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No there isn't. Gatwa's highest rating episode was the one
he wasn't even in.
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somewhere - cos again, can that really be more than a
couple % of the audience willing to go out and pay good
money for something they could watch for free at home -
at the same time?

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No one wents to watch it. The cinemas were all empty. If
people were there they would have posted photos of packed
theatres. Where are they?

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You really are a nut case aren't you?

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Provide photographic evidence that all of the cinemas were not
empty. Where is it?

 I can't as I'm in Ireland so wasn't there! However, if I had

You can't because no one was there. It's nothing to do with Ireland.

been in the UK I almost certainly would have gone... just for
the experience of seeing Doctor Who on a big cinema screen.

But you didn't have a ticket so they wouldn't have let you in. You didn't even know where these cinemas were except "in the UK".
If you want to watch Doctor Whoke on a big screen then buy a 32 inch monitor with Dolby Atmos and sit 18 inches away from it. That's about the field of view you get with the fake IMAX most cinemas claim to possess. You see they're all lying. OK, maybe since the last series was filmed in 2:1 ratio as a con to get people to buy bigger TVs you might need to get a 65 inch screen instead. Either way it would still be cheaper than travelling to the UK and trying to find non-existent tickets to purchase. It doesn't need to be OLED.

 But my common sense says that if the cinemas sold x amount of
tickets then the vast majority of the people who bought tickets
would have turned up.

No one bought tickets. The BBC booked the cinemas, allegedly, since we don't even have proof the cinemas actually existed, and each booking even if all the seats were empty counts as a full house. Let the BBC prove otherwise.

 The BBC might have handed out a few freebies to people, like
companies do, but not thousands!

It didn't even need to hand out anything. One booking counts as one full house.

 If you know otherwise, supple your source. I have no problem

It's up to the BBC to provide proof not me. The BBC doesn't give the public access to its accounts.

discussing things with you but make rational claims and back
them up so we can take your opinions seriously.

My claims are perfectly rational. Where are the bums on seats? I want to see photos off full theatres with Doctor Whoke showing on the big screen. Where are they? Surly, by now, fans would have posted them all over social media, and the BBC itself. Real pictures, not AI generated ones.
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