Re: Cinema Ratings

On 07/07/2024 12:23, Blueshirt wrote:

The True Doctor wrote:
 

On 06/07/2024 12:16, Blueshirt wrote:

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Plenty of cinemas in large UK cities must have shown the
Doctor Who S1 finale as some people have said on Doctor Who
online forums that they attended. Why would they lie?

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The BBC booked the theatres for a private showing. Even if no
one attended it would have counted as a full house. What is it
that you don't understand?

 It wasn't a private showing. The cinema chains sold tickets
directly to the public for Doctor Who, as they would any movie.
This is easily researched. The BBC did not sell tickets direct.

Prove it. The cinemas would have given the tickets away for free or sold them on behalf of the BBC. What cut did the BBC get? Either way the theatres counted as being full even if they were all empty. That's how this scam works.

 If any YouTube creator is telling you otherwise they are wrong.
 

Watch the videos by Nerdrotic on YouTube where he and others attended empty theatres where Captain Marvel was sheened, and yet Disney claimed it made a billion. It made nothing. Disney spend the entire $300,000,000 publicity budget on buying out theatre halls to claim they were full when they were actually empty.

No, YOU are the one making an outrageous claim. Doctor Who
has been shown in cinemas before, did you claim that was all
made up too? What would the BBC achieve by taking viewers
away from watching Doctor Who episodes on their iPlayer and
having them sit in a cinema instead? That is not a logical
proposition.

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No one is watching on iPlayer fool. We went through all that
last time.

 Clearly that is not the case or the 28 day consolidated viewing
figures would not be higher than the overnights. So if the

Those are all lies. The BBC is counting only 10 seconds as a view and baiting people to click on links. Those are not real viewing figures. The overnights are the only genuine figures.

episode ratings are creeping up over 7/14/28 days, people must
be watching Doctor Who on the iPlayer!

For only 10 seconds at a time. Not all the way through. It's exactly the same way they count people watching on YouTube. I have a YouTube channel and I know the true number of people watching and for how long, not just for 10 seconds.

 I know you like conspiracy theories but BARB are not adding
viewers to the Doctor Who ratings just to prove you wrong!
 

The BBC are faking the statistics by counting 10 seconds as a view and counting people watching twice as a different view, and duping viewers to click on links to Doctor Whoke on iPlayer to bump up their fake viewing figures. Let them publish how many people actually watched each episode all the way from the start to the end?

The ratings are all fiddled. Amazon want The Boys at number 1,
My Lady Jane at number 2 and Space Cadet at number 3 so they
pushed them on everyone to give them the viewing figures they
wanted. It's all a pack of lies.

 Says you.

Says everyone with any intelligence. Why isn't Picard still at number 1? It's because Amazon aren't promoting it as much. Why isn't Reacher still at number 1? Same reason. Most people in the country still haven't watched either series. Figure it out. You are being conned.

 

You sit in front of a PC you could easily have researched
what cinemas were showing Doctor Who. But doing research
doesn't suit

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Why should I? Doctor Who is dead.

 Or, doing some research might prove you wrong?
 

Research has been done. Doctor Who still remains dead.

your agenda as it would prove you wrong. You could have even
tried to book a seat to see if it was real if you were so
sceptical.

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I did my research. See above. No one is watching Doctor Who
because it ended in 2017. No one is watching Doctor Whoke
either. The cinemas were all empty. It's the equivalent of
Amazon pretending people actually watched The Boys, My Lady
Jane, and Space Cadet. They didn't.

 Try again... do some more research
 

More research has been done. Observations have been made. Data has been taken. Doctor Who still remains dead.

RTD didn't book any cinemas, or claim that he did.

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Yes he did or Bad Wolf or the BBC did. It was a stupid
publicity stunt.

 Publicity for Doctor Who, yes. Having the season finale shown in
the cinema was about boosting the show's public profile.
 

So you agree that it was a publicity stunt?

The cinemas reported £ in takings... that money was from
tickets

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No they didn't. Where is your evidence? The BBC booked the
theatres and thus paid for all the tickets. It's an audience
figure manipulation fraud. No one went to watch but it still
counts as full rooms.

 Then why were tickets advertised for sale by the various cinemas
chains then if the BBC paid for all the tickets?
 

The BBC wants to make its money back so it's reselling the tickets it already bought wholesale.
Do you understand how the retail industry works?
Shops don't buy the stuff they sell directly from the manufacturers. The manufacturers sell them to wholesalers and they mark the prices up by 30% then the wholesalers sell them to the retailers and the retailers mark them up by 30%. The consumer always gets ripped off.

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-cinema-where-to-watch-finale/

Look at all the empty seats in those images.

 

sold. Why would the cinema chains report takings if they
didn't get them. Is it all one big conspiracy just to prove
YOU wrong?

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When was the last time a cinema reported what it pays in tax
to anyone but the tax man? The cinemas reported nothing.

 Wrong again... cinemas always report their takings to someone or
how do movies get to know what their box office takings were?
Box office takings are a major metric for films.

Fool! The way movies get to know what their box office takings are is because the movie companies book all the theatres in advance of the screenings. These are tickets paid for and resold by the movie studios. That's what the publicity budget is spent on. The tickets which being bought out wholesale still count as full houses are then resold to the public, but even before they are resold the movies know how many viewers they are going to get. How do you think that the press is able to make accurate predictions of box office takings days before a film premier? Their inside sources with the studios have already told them how many theatres have been bought by the movie makers to fake the statistics. It's all a scam. If you go to the actual theatres themselves the seats are all empty.

 Likewise, Doctor Who's takings were announced... so clearly you
need to pay a bit more attention.
 

A scam. The BBC bought out all the tickets and resold them.

https://www.blogtorwho.com/doctor-who-uk-cinema-box-office-data/
 

The BBC didn't go to every cinema and book tickets for Doctor
Who screenings as a PR stunt. If you seriously believe that
and are not just trolling, then you really do need help.

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Yes they did. Anyone can book a cinema for a private screening.

 Except it wasn't a private screening... as we have already
established.

It was a private screening since the BBC bout out the theatres and attempted to resell the tickets.
Do you understand what a community centre is? Do you understand what a night club is? People book them for community events, discos, birthday parties, performances, wedding receptions, and bar mitzvahs. Then they try to sell tickets unless the event is free. Even if nobody attends it still counts as a full venue. You don't get discounts from the PRS/PPL/MCPS for music copyright when performing to an empty house. It always counts as being full.

 

Really? Now Doctor Who forums are full of BBC sock puppets?
All to counter your claim (that you saw on YouTube) that
nobody is watching Doctor Who?!

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They're no different to me watching The Boys on Amazon. Hardly
anyone else watched more than 10 seconds of it or at all. See
above. It's an advertizing scam.
>

It's well known that advertising, media, and publicity
agencies are behind most of these accounts. Ask Elon Musk
and he will confirm it.

>
The world is flat, the moon landings didn't happen and the US
government was behind 9/11... right?

>
So Doctor Whoke and the BBC would have you believe. Remember
Isaac Newton is Indian. Remember Henry VIII is a black
sub-Saharan African.

 BREAKING NEWS: Doctor Who is fictional drama, not a documentary.
 

BREAKING NEWS: Isaac Newton is a historical figure not a fictitious character.

It sounds like you need to stop playing games online and get
out more!

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No. My gaming videos get more viewers than Doctor Whoke on
Disney+.

 My money is on, NOT!
 

That doesn't change the facts. My gaming videos get more viewers.

The people buying the tickets were the fans going to see
Doctor Who at the cinema...

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No they were not. Only the BBC bought tickets. It's a scam.

 You have been misinformed.
 

No I have not.

Stop being stupid. Plenty of people were there.

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Where are the pictures of full theatres? Come on. It should be
able to produce them if as you claim people were there.

 What cinema goer takes pictures of audiences in cinemas? Not
normal people anyway.
 

Fans would take pictures. Where are they?

If I still lived in London I would have known what cinemas
were showing Doctor Who as I am a Doctor Who fan. I suspect I

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If I still lived in London I would not as I am a Doctor Who
fan and Doctor Who ended in 2017.

 Trolling again I see...
 

You are the one trolling. I've actually lived in London and was born there. Have you?

Says Doctor Who "ended" but still watches it!
 

How can I be watching something that ended in 2017 except for old episodes?

wouldn't have had to travel too far to find a cinema to watch
the Doctor Who season finale. I never lived in a cave!

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And when you entered the room all the seats would have been
empty.

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The cinemas have announced their takings from those
showings...

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No they have not.

 Wrong again... (Not that anybody is surprised by that at this
stage.)
 Check link posted above.

You are posting nothing that contradicts what I said. See above. If I book a venue it counts as a full house even if no one attends.

 And yes, unlike you I can provide links to things. I don't just
make things up because I have an agenda.

You are the one with an agenda. I am not the one acting as an apologist for woke trash.

 

Stop being stupid.

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Stop making up fake statistics.

 Says 'Mr False Reality' where EVERYTHING he says is made up and
based on absolutely nothing bar conspiracy theories and OTT
YouTube channels...
 Or you suffer from delusional disorder? As for you to be right,
EVERYONE else would have to be wrong. But a medical issue would
certainly explain it.

Everyone else who is informed, ie. the majority, agrees with me. No one agrees with the BBC's fake statistics but uninformed morons.
I've shown you how they fiddle the statistics for publicity. Learn something.

 

No, your claims are anything but rational... they are agenda
driven conspiracy theory nonsense.

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They are totally rational. Why would anyone want to go to a
cinema to watch what they know will be crap.

 Believe it or not, Doctor Who has plenty of fans.
 

Doctor Who might have but not Doctor Whoke.

But, if that is what you genuinely believe... <shrugs>

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That is what actually happened. The BBC bought up a bunch of
cinema halls to screen Doctor Whoke in at private showings and
therefore no one had to actually be there for them to count as
all being full. It's a scam to sell adverts just like on
Amazon Prime.

 You have a unique take on everything, but I think we'll have to
agree to disagree.

This is not a take. It's how the industry actually works. Learn something.
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner