Re: Cinema Ratings

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Sujet : Re: Cinema Ratings
De : agamemnon (at) *nospam* hello.to.NO_SPAM (The True Doctor)
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Date : 08. Jul 2024, 02:11:00
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On 07/07/2024 23:48, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
 
On 07/07/2024 12:23, Blueshirt wrote:
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It wasn't a private showing. The cinema chains sold tickets
directly to the public for Doctor Who, as they would any
movie.  This is easily researched. The BBC did not sell
tickets direct.
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Prove it. The cinemas would have given the tickets away for
free or sold them on behalf of the BBC. What cut did the BBC
get? Either way the theatres counted as being full even if
they were all empty. That's how this scam works.
 People went, there are plenty of people on a variety of Doctor
Who online forums who have said they went and watched the Doctor
Who season finale in the cinema. Why would every single one of
them lie, what would they gain from doing so?
The question you ignorant fool is were the cinemas full, not were a few fans there to make YouTube videos or social media posts.
Where is the proof that the screening rooms were all full? There isn't any. If you disagree then prove otherwise.

 
If any YouTube creator is telling you otherwise they are
wrong.
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Watch the videos by Nerdrotic on YouTube where he and others
attended empty theatres where Captain Marvel was sheened, and
yet Disney claimed it made a billion. It made nothing. Disney
spend the entire $300,000,000 publicity budget on buying out
theatre halls to claim they were full when they were actually
empty.
 So you are basing your opinions on what people on YouTube say?
<rolls eyes>
 
I am basing my opinions on facts. You have not provided any.

Do you ever ask them to provide a source for their info or
photos of empty cinemas? What makes their opinions so special?
You are more gullible than Dave!
They went to the cinemas and this is corroborated by others and they were the only people in the room, despite Disney claiming the cinemas were all full.

 
Clearly that is not the case or the 28 day consolidated
viewing figures would not be higher than the overnights. So
if the
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Those are all lies. The BBC is counting only 10 seconds as a
view and baiting people to click on links. Those are not real
viewing figures. The overnights are the only genuine figures.
 No they are not, or there wouldn't be 28 day consolidated
figures published in the first place. Stop living in the past
 > you clown, it's not 1975.
The 28 day consolidated figures are all fake. It's the same people being counted more than once or click bait 10 second views all added up. If iPlayer existed in 1989 then episode 1 of Battlefield would have got more than 6 million viewers after 28 days.

Overnights are only a small part of
the story these days. Which is something you and your idiotic
agenda driven YouTube buddies can't seem to grasp.
 
Overnights are the only thing that matter to advertisers. It's always been that way. Nothing has changed.

episode ratings are creeping up over 7/14/28 days, people
must be watching Doctor Who on the iPlayer!
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For only 10 seconds at a time. Not all the way through. It's
exactly the same way they count people watching on YouTube. I
have a YouTube channel and I know the true number of people
watching and for how long, not just for 10 seconds.
 Your YouTube channel is not Doctor Who... and without even
That is irrelevant.

watching your channel I'd guess it's about as exciting as
watching paint dry, which would explain why people can only
handle ten seconds at a time. I see what you are like here, I
couldn't handle listening to you on a fucking video!
Says the ignorant demented degenerate fool that admits to not having watched my channel. I don't talk on it you stupid retard. It's a gaming channel. It shows game play and sometimes but not very often if I'm in the mood I might do a live commentary on the game but I've not done that for months.

 
I know you like conspiracy theories but BARB are not adding
viewers to the Doctor Who ratings just to prove you wrong!
>
The BBC are faking the statistics by counting 10 seconds as a
view and counting people watching twice as a different view,
and duping viewers to click on links to Doctor Whoke on
iPlayer to bump up their fake viewing figures. Let them
publish how many people actually watched each episode all the
way from the start to the end?
 BARB compile the viewing figures in the UK, not the BBC.
 
The BBC provide the data. It's all a scam.

If the BBC are faking figures why don't they say ten million
people watched Doctor Who then? You make about as much sense as
Because despite them faking the figures people are not clicking on their click bait links to watch Doctor Whoke online. They know it's crap. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on you.

a five year old with a mental deficiency. If you are going to
create fake viewing figures you don't create fake amounts that
are among the lowest figures the show has ever got!!!
 
200,000 views is the best they can get online. If they tried to claim 20 million no one would believe them. What the are not telling people you 5 year old retard is that 200,000 views is only 2,000 watching each episode from start to finish.

The ratings are all fiddled. Amazon want The Boys at
number 1, My Lady Jane at number 2 and Space Cadet at
number 3 so they pushed them on everyone to give them the
viewing figures they wanted. It's all a pack of lies.
>
Says you.
>
Says everyone with any intelligence. Why isn't Picard still at
number 1? It's because Amazon aren't promoting it as much. Why
isn't Reacher still at number 1? Same reason. Most people in
the country still haven't watched either series. Figure it
out. You are being conned.
 No, you are trying to con me, and I can smell the bullshit from
here.
You know nothing about how the industry works. If Amazon wanted Reacher or Picard or Fallout to be number 1 this week it would be. Everyone knows the viewing figures are a scam.

 You back none of your claims up with evidence and when figures
are published that prove you wrong, you then claim everyone is
lying!
It's up to Amazon, Disney and the BBC to publish the real figures. Why do you think they refuse to do so?

 Because somebody on YouTube said so. (You are easily led!)
 
Because they know that no one is watching their shows online. Let the streamers prove otherwise if they claim otherwise.

Then why were tickets advertised for sale by the various
cinemas chains then if the BBC paid for all the tickets?
>
>
The BBC wants to make its money back so it's reselling the
tickets it already bought wholesale.
>
Do you understand how the retail industry works?
>
Shops don't buy the stuff they sell directly from the
manufacturers. The manufacturers sell them to wholesalers and
they mark the prices up by 30% then the wholesalers sell them
to the retailers and the retailers mark them up by 30%. The
consumer always gets ripped off.
>
Wrong again... cinemas always report their takings to
someone or how do movies get to know what their box office
takings were?  Box office takings are a major metric for
films.
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Fool! The way movies get to know what their box office takings
are is because the movie companies book all the theatres in
advance of the screenings. These are tickets paid for and
resold by the movie studios. That's what the publicity budget
is spent on. The tickets which being bought out wholesale
still count as full houses are then resold to the public, but
even before they are resold the movies know how many viewers
they are going to get. How do you think that the press is able
to make accurate predictions of box office takings days before
a film premier? Their inside sources with the studios have
already told them how many theatres have been bought by the
movie makers to fake the statistics. It's all a scam. If you
go to the actual theatres themselves the seats are all empty.
>
>
Likewise, Doctor Who's takings were announced... so clearly
you need to pay a bit more attention.
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A scam. The BBC bought out all the tickets and resold them.
 But you provide no evidence that this is the case.
 
The onus is on the BBC to provide evidence since they are the ones calming to have it. Where is it?

Except it wasn't a private screening... as we have already
established.
>
It was a private screening since the BBC bout out the theatres
and attempted to resell the tickets.
>
Do you understand what a community centre is? Do you
understand what a night club is? People book them for
community events, discos, birthday parties, performances,
wedding receptions, and bar mitzvahs. Then they try to sell
tickets unless the event is free. Even if nobody attends it
still counts as a full venue. You don't get discounts from the
PRS/PPL/MCPS for music copyright when performing to an empty
house. It always counts as being full.
>
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BREAKING NEWS: Doctor Who is fictional drama, not a
documentary.
>
BREAKING NEWS: Isaac Newton is a historical figure not a
fictitious character.
 Parallel universe and/or different timeline... it's fiction.
 
Absolute complete and utter nonsense. Isaac Newton's parents and grandparents are all proven to be white English in ancestry. If they were not then he would not be Isaac Newton and would not have discovered gravity. Newton wouldn't even exist in a parallel universe or timeline unless he was white and English, not Indian.

You have been misinformed.
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No I have not.
>
Stop being stupid. Plenty of people were there.
>
Where are the pictures of full theatres? Come on. It
should be able to produce them if as you claim people were
there.
>
What cinema goer takes pictures of audiences in cinemas? Not
normal people anyway.
>
Fans would take pictures. Where are they?
>
>
Trolling again I see...
>
You are the one trolling. I've actually lived in London and
was born there. Have you?
 Well, I lived there in a flat, not in one of those special
hospitals. But at least you got released. Well done. You
shouldn't have stopped taking the medication though.
You are experiencing flash backs or delusions of your own incarceration or fantasies thereof and projecting them onto others.

 
And yes, unlike you I can provide links to things. I don't
just make things up because I have an agenda.
>
You are the one with an agenda. I am not the one acting as an
apologist for woke trash.
 I am a Doctor Who fan and proud to be a Doctor Who fan. It's not
perfect, but it's MY show.
Doctor Who ended in 2017. You should not be happy with that. I know I'm not.

 
Says 'Mr False Reality' where EVERYTHING he says is made up
and based on absolutely nothing bar conspiracy theories and
OTT YouTube channels...
>
Or you suffer from delusional disorder? As for you to be
right, EVERYONE else would have to be wrong. But a medical
issue would certainly explain it.
>
Everyone else who is informed, ie. the majority, agrees with
me. No one agrees with the BBC's fake statistics but
uninformed morons.
 Based on what I see here, NOBODY agrees with you.
 
What you see here is not a representative sample. Everyone who is informed, ie. the majority, agrees with me. Learn to live with it.

I've shown you how they fiddle the statistics for publicity.
Learn something.
 I learn from people who exhibit common sense. You OTOH...
  
No you don't. You desperately want to believe lies.

You have a unique take on everything, but I think we'll have
to agree to disagree.
>
This is not a take. It's how the industry actually works.
Learn something.
 I can't learn much from you as you have the IQ of an imbecile...
 
You can't learn anything from anyone because you are the one with the IQ of an imbecile.

Methinks it's time to shove you in the Bozo Bin where the idiots
Methinks you have admitted to losing the argument.

and retards of Usenet reside. Your contributions here are just
lessons in stupidity. Nobody takes you seriously. Ever wonder
why?
 
The ones who don't take me seriously are obviously stupid just like you are.

Cheerio and toodle pip...
Don't forget to close the door to your padded cell when you get back to it.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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