Sujet : Re: RTD vs Biden
De : pursent100 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (%)
Groupes : rec.arts.drwhoDate : 14. Jul 2024, 22:39:16
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The Doctor wrote:
In article <v718ta$9ece$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <v70jsq$5ldd$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <xn0oob78bgz8k3z006@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
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With the first past the post system that they use in the UK,
Britain is basically a two-party country government wise. When
the British public get sick of Labour, the Conservatives will
return to government... and vice-versa. I doubt I will ever see
a [majority] Liberal Party UK government in my lifetime.
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And I never thought Liberals would go beyond 50 seats.
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If the UK ever uses our system of voting (PR) then that would be
different... you'd have more hung parliaments and coalitions and
then the LibDems would be more significant..
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WEll the referendum on PR did say no PR.
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We never held a referendum on PR. We held a referendum on AV which
basically results mostly in a “second past the post†victory in
most of our
constituencies. Proponents of PR are … not keen on AV. Imagine the last
election on that basis - Reform voters STILL wouldn’t have gained more than
a handful of seats but the Tories would gain a lot back when Reform’s
second choices proved to be almost all pro Tory. AV still massively biases
towards two parties in each seat.
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AV? What is that?
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Alternative Vote, also known as Single Transferable Vote. You vote for
candidates in numerical preference order. If no candidate gains 50% of the
first preference votes, the second preferences of enough candidates that
50% is possible are taken and those candidates eliminated. The process
repeats until a candidate gets more than 50% of the votes.
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So it’s not PR - it’s a way of maintaining constituency representation, by
the least disliked candidate from the choices given.
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Just imagine what would have happened in many of the constituencies where
the Conservatives came second and Reform came third. Then the ones where
Reform came second and the Conservatives third. AV would have resulted in a
very different parliament, but not a more representative one.
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The more regular term is preferential ballot.
Canada came up with ranked ballot.
They do it in Aus.
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