Re: Ian Levine's Doctor Who Group Poll on the Timeless Child...

On 01/12/2024 21:47, Blueshirt wrote:

The True Doctor wrote:
 

On 01/12/2024 15:31, Blueshirt wrote:

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I have not mentioned any figures paid by Disney whatsoever...
anywhere... ever. This is you moving the goal-posts once
again.

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I've not moved anything. You are trying to avoid answering the
question/ Do you work for Disney or advise them? Where does
the information you refer to about a deal to show Doctor Whoke
on Disney+ come from?

 No, you started this conversation by saying Doctor Who had been
cancelled by every streaming service it had been on. I replied

Which is true.

it was still on Disney+. Which is a simple fact. You then

I never said it wasn't. That doesn't not imply it has not been cancelled.

switched to going on about the figures that were mentioned
[online I suppose] regarding the deal (which I hadn't mentioned
at all) and then claimed it was all "FAKE NEWS". So I don't know
what YouTube channel has set you off on this tangent but they
are leading you up the garden path.

You are the one who started referring to the FAKE NEWS claim that Disney+ paid $200,000,000 for Doctor Whoke. There is no evidence whatsoever for such a deal.

 If you don't think there was a deal between the BBC and Disney
for distribution rights to Doctor Who and it is all fake news,
how do you think S1 of Doctor Who became broadcast on Disney+?

Where is the evidence that Disney+ paid the BBC $200,000,000 for the rights? It's nothing more than fake news, with the figure pulled out of think air.

Do you think the BBC just 'give away' their shows for
international distribution for free? Would Disney be promoting

With the retards running the BBC these days they probably are just to get their degenerate disseminated.

"Joy to the Worlds" if they were not going to be showing it?!
 

The episode is called "Joy to the World".

In your world, the BBC upset all their overseas partners; CBC,
ABC and other overseas television stations that traditionally
showed Doctor Who to let Disney+ stream Doctor Who BUT THERE IS
NO DEAL? And unless proven otherwise then it is all FAKE NEWS.
 

There is no evidence that Disney+ paid the BBC $200 million for the rights.

If you seriously believe that - and are not just trolling - you
need serious medical help. You have gone from a person that
discusses Doctor Who with a unique perspective to a flat-earth
conspiracy theorist. There is no logic to your argument.
 

You have turned into a drone pre-programmed to repeat the same old fake news mantra without questioning its origin.

Now your crusade is the money allegedly paid by Disney to the
BBC for Doctor Who is "fake news", when nobody here has
claimed any of the sums mentioned are correct. (If they
have, it wasn't me.)

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But you are attempting to present them as being correct. That
is how the woke FAKE NEWS opperates.

 No, I have not mentioned any figures whatsover. Ever. But as
Doctor Who S1 was aired on Disney+, and is still airing on
Disney+, and the Doctor Who Christmas special is being promoted
by Disney+... then clearly there has to be a deal of some sort!

But not necessarily the one described by the FAKE NEWS.

This is simple logic. Just becuase YOU do not know the figures
involved doesn't mean there is no deal. The evidence of your
eyes whilst viewing the "Doctor Who" tab on Disney+ is clear to
see... unless you are blind of course.

The evidence that is clear to see is that each episode had no more than $1 million spent on it at best. Where has the other $190 million gone?
If the FAKE NEWS can't even get the budget right why should anyone believed any of their claims when they consistently lie, lie, and lie about what Donald Trump has either said of done.

 

The fact that Doctor Who is still being streamed on Disney+ -
and they are promoting "Joy to the Worlds" - proves that
there is a deal.

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It proves nothing. The question was not about the deal but
about its terms, how much was paid to the BBC, and if it has
been renewed or will ever be.

 Why should anyone need to know that?  I don't need to know,
neither do you. It's none of our business. You live in the UK
and watch Doctor Who on BBC1. Disney+ showing Doctor Who on
their streaming service does not affect you in any way
whatsoever.

I pay the BBC £170 a year to watch the crap that they make. Why should I keep paying that if they're getting $200 million from Disney to make Doctor Whoke?

 If the BBC/Disney "deal" is cancelled, or not renewed it will
become fairly obvious to everyone... as Doctor Who will be
removed from the Disney+ service. Which as you well know is what
happens when the distribution licences for shows on streaming
services change. You certainly won't need anyone on YouTube to
tell you!

No one is disputing that.

 

Is it, really? Maybe you'll have to speak to Mickey and
Donald about that one.

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Micky is out of copyright. I'm still waiting from someone to
make a cartoon of him being torn to pieces by Felix the Cat
(also out of copyright) and eaten.

 Why wait? Be creative and write one of you short stories about
Felix and Mickey. It'll give us something to pass the time until
"Joy to the Worlds" airs!
 

It needs to be animated. I've already given you the brief. And the special is called "Joy to the World" as in the Christmas song. Didn't Urethra Franklin do a cover of it I seem to remember?

I'm sure there was a bit of spin re the amounts paid, but the
deal itself can't be FAKE NEWS as Doctor Who is being
streamed on Disney+ and they are still promoting the show...
so there has to be a deal of some sort! Disney did not get
the international streaming rights for Doctor Who for
nothing.

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Maybe the BBC paid Disney+ to show it. Where are the real
facts and not the fake news?

 That as a counter argument is a bit more sensical than just
labelling everything as FAKE NEWS. However, it does seem a bit
unlikely to me. Doctor Who is one of the BBC's premier
television shows. (Regardless of what you might believe.)
 

LOL!!!! Premier? Only 2 million viewers on BBC1? Only 200 viewers from 20,000 views at most per epsiode on Disney+?

It's quite possible that Disney won't renew their partnership
with the BBC for the Doctor Who streaming rights after
S2/S15, but as they are currently promoting the Doctor Who
Christmas Special then clearly they haven't cancelled their
deal.

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They've not even given it the correct title. That just shows
how much they care for it.

 Maybe their version is the correct title?
 

Not according to the trailers on the BBC.

Why is what Disney do or don't do with Doctor Who a thing for
you anyway? You live in the UK and watch Doctor Who on BBC1,
so why jump on a bandwagon that doesn't concern you in any
way whatsoever? It's just another one of your little agendas
to knock the show you claim to be a fan of.

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It's Disney that has the agenda and everyone knows exactly
what it is. They want to use shows like Doctor Whoke and the
Wokolyte to sexually groom children. Even Governor DeSantis of
Florida knows it and has called them out.
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Doctor Who ended in 2017! I am not a fan of Doctor Whoke.

 You may be correct in one thing. I do not believe a deal between
the BBC and the Disney Corporation for a show called "Doctor
Whoke" exists. That is indeed FAKE NEWS!

Nor is there any deal for a show called Doctor Who since it ended in 2017.

 

The Disney deal with the BBC for Doctor Who does not affect
the UK in any way.

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Yes it does. Disney have ensured that a bunch of child
grooming perverts are running the show. RTD has long ago
publicly admitted he gets excited and elated whenever he hears
a boy tell him he became homosexual because of watching
something RTD wrote or made he saw on TV.

 RTD was appointed before the "deal" (that for some reason, you
don't think is a deal) with Disney was announced. So it's

You still haven't answered what happened to Moffat's deal with China? It was all a bunch of downright lies, wasn't it?

reasonable to assume that RTD and Bad Wold Studios were going to
be making Doctor Who for the BBC regardless of any "investment"
(that you don't think has been invested) from the Disney
Corporation.

So the claim of Disney+'s investment of $200,000,000 is nothing more than another lie.

 You are using the Disney deal as a bandwagon for your arguments.
If Doctor Who in 2024 is not to your liking, it probably

Doctor Who ended in 2017!

wouldn't have been to your liking even if the "deal" with Disney
wasn't done. After all, you claim the show finished in 2017...

Which it did.

Disney were not involved with Doctor Who at that time, so what
was your issue then?

The series went woke from the end of Series 8 onwards when the Master was turned into a woman. Even before that Moffat had lost all interest in it when he allowed the total stupidity of Kill the Moon to be made followed by In the Forest of the Night. After that the series went totally down the toilet leading to its ultimate cancellation in 2017.
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