Re: Robert Creeley poem

On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 13:03:02 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 20:49:25 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:39:48 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:57:09 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:53:52 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 6:41:33 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 0:04:15 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
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https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article.php?id=255731&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:15:27 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MPP) aka
"HarryLime" wrote:
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I realized from the content of NancyGene's posts that they were
intelligent, well-educated, and better written than anyone here.
Naturally, I asked them to start contributing to the "Sampler."  And I
was right in doing so.
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Here are the opening lines of NancyGene's latest poem:
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"Yesterdays stack up like piles of read newspapers,
Cluttering my mind and obstructing my day."
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That's poetry of the highest quality.

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The opening line is very good. It's almost as good as the opening line
of Robert Creeleys poem, "The Days Pile Up":
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"The days pile up like unread newspapers,"
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I do hope "Dr." NastyGoon credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would be
something they would call, you know -- "plagiarism".

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Ping Rachel:
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This is the obert Creeley poem I was telling you about, the one causing
such a ruckus here on the poetry newsgroup.

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It's George Dance's libelous accusation of plagiarism

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Read the George Dance post again, he didn't make an accusation, just an
observation.

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And, yes, George Dance did make the accusation:

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No, George Dance made the observation, see below.
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"I do hope "Dr." NastyGoon credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would be
something they would call, you know -- "plagiarism"."
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No, George Dance was saying that's what" they," Nancy Gene would call
it.
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Are you just playing stupid again or is your reading comprehension
really that poor?

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How does that matter, Donkey?
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If the line had been copied from Creeley with only minor modifications
(as George Dance falsely claims), posting it without crediting him
*would* be plagiarism.

No, Lying Michael. Copying one line of someone else's poem to use in a
poem of one's own is not plagiarism. It may be considered rude, if done
to a living author, but it is not considered literary theft.

It doesn't matter whether NancyGene would call it "plagiarism" if
someone else did it.  It would be an act of plagiarism regardless of
what NancyGene, or anyone else, called it.

No, Lying Michael: it's something that only a troll would call
plagiarism: a troll like NastyGoon, or ... yourself.

And since George Dance titled the thread this accusation appeared in
"NastyGoon lifts a line" (FYI: That is a direct accusation that
NancyGene copied the line from Creeley), he's calling her a
plagiarist... twice.

No, HarryLiar. As Will said, you got the line wrong. The only question
is why.