Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

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Here's the original unedited version so the readers can decide for
themselves:
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I Met A Girl
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I met a girl
she came from California.
It was in a dream
we knew each other instantly.
She was a little freckled girl
from out of
my high school past.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I've forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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We talked
a really detached situation.
She said years ago
I was so shy
she thought I was gay.
At this point I kissed her
and put my finger to her hole.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I have forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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I don't know why it was
that I would think of her.
I made a couple of puns
about her name that made me blush.
But her softness in tone
made me feel all right.
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All I want to do
is get in contact.
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-Will Dockery / May 8 1982

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This poem was written in 1982, during my time in the Atlanta Georgia New
Wave punk rock scene, while also influenced by the earlier Beatnik poets
I was reading at the time, such as Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and
Charles Bukowski among others.
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Both styles employed a sort of crude swagger in the tone and content
which I also used in many of my poems.
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All apologies to those offended.

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I suppose that's a start.
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Of course, an apologize is supposed to include owning up to one's
mistake -- not attempting to justify it as beatnik inspired swagger.
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You need to recognize that groping a woman you've just met is wrong.
Regardless of whether she's a punk rocker, or that you were acting under
the influence of beatnik poets.

It was 1982 and a very wild evening in Atlanta Georgia.

You're misrepresenting the scene again, Pendragon. We were just having
some fun, kissing and "making out" a little, as the young folks used to
call it.
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Nothing as serious as you want to make it out to be.
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HTH and HAND.

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Your poem makes it out to be

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No, that's just your misrepresentation of my poem, Pendragon.

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Mainly, you continue to lie and misrepresent, Harry.
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Answer my question

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I did, and continue to.
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See below:
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Okay, see below for my answer.
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If you ran into some guy you'd barely known in high school

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I know a lot of people from all walks of life, so such a meeting would
be welcome.
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Of course I'd give him a autographed copy of my poetry book.
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Since that would be a completely different situation from the one in my
poem there would have been a completely different outcome.

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What's so different about it

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You don't know the difference between straight and gay sex?

Again ^^^

The events in my poem were consensual.

Nit to mention based on a dream.

Look that word up, Harry.

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"Consensual" is a label that you have applied to your poem

Because it applies.

That you gender identify as heterosexual is 100% beside the point.

Usually, yes.

Men often misread social cues from a woman, mistaking friendliness for
flirting, and so on.  Just because you were feeling attracted to her,
that doesn't mean that she was also feeling attracted to you

She definitely seemed to be.

Over the years, you've painted a picture of yourself as an old horndog
who'll jump in the sack with any woman who's willing (your admission to
frequently employing the services of $10 whores shows just how
unselective you are in this regard.

I confess I've had nights such as that.

Remember the Seinfeld episode where Elaine was disgusted that the man
she had been on a first date with "took *it* out"?  This man didn't even
touch her body -- he simply exposed his male member to her.  And Elaine
was far from being a prude.

A very different person and situation.

I know that you gender identify as heterosexual

No shit, Sherlock.

If, as you keep saying, this was the wild and crazy 80s, and you were
with a group of wild and crazy punk rockers -- many of whom were openly
engaging in sexual intercourse

That's not in the poem.
I simply would have said, "Sorry, man, I don't swing that way," and
moved on.

Your insistence that the question wouldn't apply because you gender
identify as heterosexual

Correct, I'm not gay.
HTH and HAND.