Re: NastyGoon lifts a line

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Sujet : Re: NastyGoon lifts a line
De : George J. Dance (at) *nospam* novabbs.com (George J. Dance)
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Date : 14. Feb 2025, 14:21:49
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 19:07:23 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
"HarryLime" wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 17:28:45 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 0:04:15 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:15:27 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MPP) aka
"HarryLime" wrote:
>
Here are the opening lines of NancyGene's latest poem:
>
"Yesterdays stack up like piles of read newspapers,
Cluttering my mind and obstructing my day."
>
That's poetry of the highest quality.
>
The opening line is very good. It's almost as good as the opening line
of Robert Creeleys poem, "The Days Pile Up":
>
"The days pile up like unread newspapers,"
>
I do hope "Dr." NastyGoon credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would be
something they would call, you know -- "plagiarism".
>
Note that George Dance didn't make any accusations, only an observation.
>
Wrong, Donkey.
No, HarryLiar; he's right. There was no accusation of plagiarism, just
an observation: if NastyGoon had found such a line in a poem they'd have
called it plagiarism. The story that I accused her must have been come
from you.

George clearly specified that his "observation" was contingent upon
whether NancyGene credited Creeley for her poem -- which he knows full
well that she did not.
And I'll stand by my observation, which seems quite clear to me on
rereading: if NastyGoon had found a similar line in another person's
poem, uncredited, they'd have called it plagiarism.

He knows this because I presented the opening
lines of her poem as being an example of *her* talent as a poet.  Had
the lines been cribbed from Mr. Creeley, my example would not have
applied.
The fact you were slurping your "colleague" is irrelevant. For all I
know from what you provided, it's a cento with notes at the bottom
crediting the sources.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Feb 25 * NastyGoon lifts a line116George J. Dance
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line5HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i+* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2W.Dockery
12 Feb 25 ii`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
10 Feb 25 i+- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
11 Feb 25 i`- Re: Robert Creeley's poetry1W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
2 Mar 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line6W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line5George J. Dance
9 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
15 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
1 Mar 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
16 Apr 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line14W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line13HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line12W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 i  `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line11HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i   `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line10W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 i    `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line9HarryLime
9 Feb 25 i     +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i     +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4George J. Dance
10 Feb 25 i     i+- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i     i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
11 Feb 25 i     i `- Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 i     `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line (,from Eva Saulitis)3W.Dockery
14 Apr 25 i      `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line (from Eva Saulitis)2W.Dockery
15 Apr 25 i       `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line (from Eva Saulitis)1HarryLime
9 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line14W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line13George J. Dance
10 Feb 25 i +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line11HarryLime
12 Feb 25 i i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line10George J. Dance
12 Feb 25 i i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line9HarryLime
13 Feb 25 i i  `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line8George J. Dance
13 Feb 25 i i   +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line6HarryLime
13 Feb 25 i i   i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line5George J. Dance
13 Feb 25 i i   i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i i   i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
20 Feb 25 i i   i  `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i i   i   `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
5 Mar 25 i i   `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i `- The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3HarryLime
9 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line from Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
13 May 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
17 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2George J. Dance
17 Feb 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +- The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line13W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line12NancyGene
10 Feb 25 i +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line8HarryLime
10 Feb 25 i i+* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i ii`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
14 Feb 25 i ii `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4NancyGene
10 Feb 25 i i +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
10 Feb 25 i i i`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1NancyGene
10 Feb 25 i i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
12 Feb 25 i `* The poetry of Robert Creeley3W.Dockery
12 Feb 25 i  `* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley2HarryLime
16 Feb 25 i   `- Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +- Robert Creeley poetry not online1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +* The poetry of Robert Creeley5W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i`* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley4HarryLime
10 Feb 25 i `* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley3W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i  `* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley2HarryLime
11 Feb 25 i   `- Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
13 Feb 25 i `- Re: Robert Creeley's poetry book on order1W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line6W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 i+* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
14 Feb 25 ii`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
14 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3George J. Dance
14 Feb 25 i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
14 Feb 25 i  `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
16 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2W.Dockery
16 Feb 25 i`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1Cujo DeSockpuppet
19 Feb 25 +* Re: Robert Creeley poem13W.Dockery
19 Feb 25 i`* Re: Robert Creeley poem12HarryLime
19 Feb 25 i `* Re: Robert Creeley poem11W.Dockery
19 Feb 25 i  `* Re: Robert Creeley poem10HarryLime
19 Feb 25 i   +* Re: Robert Creeley poem7W.Dockery
20 Feb 25 i   i+- Re: Robert Creeley poem1George J. Dance
20 Feb 25 i   i+* Re: Robert Creeley poem4HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i   ii`* Re: Robert Creeley poem3George J. Dance
20 Feb 25 i   ii +- Re: Robert Creeley poem1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i   ii `- Re: Robert Creeley poem1NancyGene
20 Feb 25 i   i`- Will Dockery copies Michael Pendragon's words1NancyGene
20 Feb 25 i   `* Re: Robert Creeley poem2George J. Dance
20 Feb 25 i    `- Re: Robert Creeley poem1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
20 Feb 25 i+- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1HarryLime
22 Feb 25 i`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
22 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
22 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
23 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
1 Mar 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
11 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line from Eva Saulitis1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 +- Re: Eva Saulitis poetry about "a room stacked with newspapers1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 +- Re: The poetry of Eva Saulitis'1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
13 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
14 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line / Eva Saulitis1W.Dockery
15 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
16 Apr 25 `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery

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