Re: Ginsberg's Rorschach poetry

On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:22:57 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 16:11:37 +0000, Will-Dockery wrote:
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Victor H. wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
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Michael Pendragon wrote:
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On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:27:52 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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Allen Ginsberg's poem shows no pedophilia as far as I can tell.
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What you claim to see in the poem seems to be from your own imagination,

Pendragon.

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Says the
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No, says several legitimate sources, which day that "Please

Master" was written by Allen Ginsberg for Neal Cassady, a grown man.

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HTH and HAND.

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Did Pendragon ever admit he was wrong....?

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You know Pendragon never admits when he's wrong.

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It doesn't matter if the poem was written for Neal Cassady (a man
roughly 1/3 Ginsberg's age), as nothing in the actual poems specifies
this.

It does matter that the poem is about Neal Cassady because that throws
your older man and young boy theory out the window, as both men were the
same age.

IIRC, the poem was a sexually explicit depiction of a homosexual Dom-Sub
BDSM session, presented in a strikingly crude manner, and is not
something I have any desire to reread.  I am not being prudish or
anything; I just don't find the topic interesting.
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The "please, Master" exchanges between the Dom and Sub in the poem's
monologue, are (IMHO intentionally) reminiscent of an apprentice (a boy
aged 10-16) and a much older master craftsman in a given art or trade.
This recasts the narrative, at least on one level, as a depiction of
Man-Boy sex.
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Okay, interesting that I see this posted multiple times but the
correction doesn't show up so much at all.