Re: Robert Creeley poem

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Sujet : Re: Robert Creeley poem
De : nancygene.andjayme (at) *nospam* gmail.com (NancyGene)
Groupes : alt.arts.poetry.comments rec.arts.poems
Date : 20. Feb 2025, 16:42:32
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 13:33:17 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 13:03:02 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>

If the line had been copied from Creeley with only minor modifications
(as George Dance falsely claims), posting it without crediting him
*would* be plagiarism.
Absolutely.
>
No, Lying Michael. Copying one line of someone else's poem to use in a
poem of one's own is not plagiarism. It may be considered rude, if done
to a living author, but it is not considered literary theft.
George Dance, you have a distorted view of what plagiarism is. Since
your judgment is so fuzzy, let's consult with an authority:
https://english.richmond.edu/academics/writing-tips-documents/avoiding-plagarism.pdf
"1. Directly copying language: You plagiarize when you take a phrase, a
sentence, or a paragraph (or more) from someone else’s work and present
it as your own.
This kind of plagiarism includes taking language from an Internet site,
copying phrases
from an article, or passing in all or part of a paper you found in a
fraternity or sorority
file, though that list is certainly not exhaustive."
Got it yet, George Dance?
>
It doesn't matter whether NancyGene would call it "plagiarism" if
someone else did it.  It would be an act of plagiarism regardless of
what NancyGene, or anyone else, called it.
We have several times recognized (and called) plagiarism on George Dance
and Pickles.  With proof.

>
No, Lying Michael: it's something that only a troll would call
plagiarism: a troll like NastyGoon, or ... yourself.
According to George Dance, the English Department at the University of
Richmond consists of trolls?
>
And since George Dance titled the thread this accusation appeared in
"NastyGoon lifts a line" (FYI: That is a direct accusation that
NancyGene copied the line from Creeley), he's calling her a
plagiarist... twice.
What other interpretation could a person make other than that George
Dance is accusing us of stealing a line from another poem/poet?
>
No, HarryLiar. As Will said, you got the line wrong. The only question
is why.
The question is why you, George Dance, don't recognize that you are
losing your "marbles."  They are spilling out in every post that you
make.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Feb 25 * NastyGoon lifts a line116George J. Dance
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line5HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i+* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2W.Dockery
12 Feb 25 ii`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
10 Feb 25 i+- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
11 Feb 25 i`- Re: Robert Creeley's poetry1W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
2 Mar 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line6W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line5George J. Dance
9 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
15 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
1 Mar 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
16 Apr 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line14W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line13HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line12W.Dockery
8 Feb 25 i  `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line11HarryLime
8 Feb 25 i   `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line10W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 i    `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line9HarryLime
9 Feb 25 i     +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i     +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4George J. Dance
10 Feb 25 i     i+- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i     i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
11 Feb 25 i     i `- Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 i     `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line (,from Eva Saulitis)3W.Dockery
14 Apr 25 i      `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line (from Eva Saulitis)2W.Dockery
15 Apr 25 i       `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line (from Eva Saulitis)1HarryLime
9 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line14W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line13George J. Dance
10 Feb 25 i +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line11HarryLime
12 Feb 25 i i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line10George J. Dance
12 Feb 25 i i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line9HarryLime
13 Feb 25 i i  `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line8George J. Dance
13 Feb 25 i i   +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line6HarryLime
13 Feb 25 i i   i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line5George J. Dance
13 Feb 25 i i   i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i i   i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
20 Feb 25 i i   i  `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i i   i   `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
5 Mar 25 i i   `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i `- The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3HarryLime
9 Feb 25 i +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line from Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
13 May 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
9 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
17 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2George J. Dance
17 Feb 25 i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +- The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line13W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line12NancyGene
10 Feb 25 i +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line8HarryLime
10 Feb 25 i i+* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i ii`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
14 Feb 25 i ii `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line4NancyGene
10 Feb 25 i i +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
10 Feb 25 i i i`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1NancyGene
10 Feb 25 i i `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
12 Feb 25 i `* The poetry of Robert Creeley3W.Dockery
12 Feb 25 i  `* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley2HarryLime
16 Feb 25 i   `- Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +- Robert Creeley poetry not online1W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 +* The poetry of Robert Creeley5W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i`* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley4HarryLime
10 Feb 25 i `* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley3W.Dockery
10 Feb 25 i  `* Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley2HarryLime
11 Feb 25 i   `- Re: The poetry of Robert Creeley1W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
13 Feb 25 i `- Re: Robert Creeley's poetry book on order1W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line6W.Dockery
13 Feb 25 i+* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
14 Feb 25 ii`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
14 Feb 25 i`* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3George J. Dance
14 Feb 25 i `* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2HarryLime
14 Feb 25 i  `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1George J. Dance
16 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line2W.Dockery
16 Feb 25 i`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1Cujo DeSockpuppet
19 Feb 25 +* Re: Robert Creeley poem13W.Dockery
19 Feb 25 i`* Re: Robert Creeley poem12HarryLime
19 Feb 25 i `* Re: Robert Creeley poem11W.Dockery
19 Feb 25 i  `* Re: Robert Creeley poem10HarryLime
19 Feb 25 i   +* Re: Robert Creeley poem7W.Dockery
20 Feb 25 i   i+- Re: Robert Creeley poem1George J. Dance
20 Feb 25 i   i+* Re: Robert Creeley poem4HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i   ii`* Re: Robert Creeley poem3George J. Dance
20 Feb 25 i   ii +- Re: Robert Creeley poem1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 i   ii `- Re: Robert Creeley poem1NancyGene
20 Feb 25 i   i`- Will Dockery copies Michael Pendragon's words1NancyGene
20 Feb 25 i   `* Re: Robert Creeley poem2George J. Dance
20 Feb 25 i    `- Re: Robert Creeley poem1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
20 Feb 25 i+- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1HarryLime
22 Feb 25 i`- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1HarryLime
20 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
22 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
22 Feb 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
23 Feb 25 +* Re: NastyGoon lifts a line3W.Dockery
1 Mar 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
10 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
11 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line from Eva Saulitis1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 +- Re: Eva Saulitis poetry about "a room stacked with newspapers1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 +- Re: The poetry of Eva Saulitis'1W.Dockery
12 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
13 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
14 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line / Eva Saulitis1W.Dockery
15 Apr 25 +- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery
16 Apr 25 `- Re: NastyGoon lifts a line1W.Dockery

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