Re: [OT] Murder in New York

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De : bliss-sf4ever (at) *nospam* dslextreme.com (Bobbie Sellers)
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Date : 15. Dec 2024, 18:22:12
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On 12/15/24 08:45, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 13:19:09 +1300, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
 
On 15/12/24 05:09, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:32:17 +1300, Titus G Trump <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:
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On 14/12/24 05:30, Paul S Person wrote:
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My solution is simpler: the person at the top is /always/ responsible
[1]. Unless he was active in supervising the organization and this was
hidden from him.
>
[1] This is a common trope, whether by Pres Truman ("The buck stops
here", pointing to his desk or perhaps the Oval Office) to Star Trek
VI, where Kirk agrees that, as Captain, he is responsible for what
happened. So why does the buck /not/ stop at the top dog in these
cases?
>
Perhaps because one is fiction with a message and the other is reality?
>
Truman isn't fiction.
>
He certainly accepted responsibility for use of atomic bombing of Japan.
I do not know of his record of other matters. The buck does stop "in
these cases", but nowadays it stops in the top dogs' bank accounts.
Didn't Truman also become somewhat rich as President?
 I have no idea.
 But, if he did, that means he /wasn't/ rich when he became President.
No he was not rich but he was in politics. He attended some
business school class but did not have a college degree.
Well he had been a haberdashery owner who went
bankrupt in the 1921 recession as I understand it. He got
a good salary while in office and probably wrote or helped
write books afterward. Presidents have pensions so he
was well off.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman>

 In January 1959, Truman calculated his net worth as $1,046,788.86 (equivalent to $10,941,000 in 2023),
 > including a share in the Los Angeles Rams football team. Nevertheless, > the Trumans always lived modestly in Independence, and when Bess
 > Truman died in 1982, almost a decade after her husband, the house was
 > found to be in poor condition due to deferred maintenance.[311]
So like most other holders of the Presidency, Truman was richer
after he served the nation so well.
bliss



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