Re: (ReacTor) Five Futures Where the US Ended Not With a Bang But a Whimper

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De : psperson (at) *nospam* old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
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Date : 21. Apr 2025, 16:28:47
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 14:46:09 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul S Person wrote:
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We need two Centrist parties, one slightly Right and one slightly
Left. One wonders if "Whigs" and "Tories" are available as Party
names.
>
I don't think "Tory" will work in the US.  Too much 1776 and all that.
>
But "Know Nothing" is up for grabs.

Actually, Trump has been adopting it for years. He just calls it
"Republican". They were originally the "Native American Party" (by
which they meant, of course WASPs, each and every one of them
descended from relatively recent immigrants and American only because
they were born here), and then the "American Party". "No Nothing
Party" is what other people called them.

The Party Flag shown on this page:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing> is quite clear on that
point. Trump appears to be acting on the slogan it shows every day.

Yes, "Tory" may be a bit of a stretch in the USA. But there are surely
other Party names that can be contrasted with "Whig" -- or other pairs
of names that can be used.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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