Re: Los Angeles Has Surrendered

On Jun 9, 2025 at 7:52:00 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

On 6/9/2025 10:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

  On Jun 9, 2025 at 5:40:44 PM PDT, "Dimensional Traveler" <dtravel@sonic.net>
  wrote:
 

  On 6/9/2025 8:36 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 6/9/2025 5:33 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

   

    Encouraged by the mayor and city council, over the weekend, violent
    leftist protesters took to the streets and attacked police and
    federal agents while they were in the performance of making legal
    and constitutional arrests. This, of course, is the very definition
    of insurrection under the U.S. Code but none of our legacy media came
    anywhere close to using that term to describe it.  Insurrection is a
    crime they apparently believe only conservatives can commit. . . .

   

    Over Governor Newsom's objections, Trump federalized and deployed the
    California national guard. Newsom said army troops were unnecessary but
    police have been using anti-riot tactics, so what's the difference. The
    violent protests have continued for three days. News reports say that
    national guard troops have been deployed to protect federal property. If
    that's all they are being used for, I don't see how that usurps
    federalism. Newsom is going to court this morning anyway.

   

    Police declared all of downtown Los Angeles "an unlawful assembly area".
    Why didn't they just declare a straight-forward curfew? What does that
    mean for a building owner trying to get security guards deployed?

   

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/08/national-guard-los-angeles-protests-live-updates/84103374007/

   

    Reports I had read indicated there were all of 100 protesters.

        That was Friday. Numerous other people began protesting over the next
    several days.
   

  In part because of the overboard heavy handed Trump response.

    Oh, baloney. There's nothing heavy-handed about bringing in troops to
protect
  federal property during a riot. This same thing happened in 2020 when Antifa
  goons spent more than 150 days trying to burn down the federal courthouse in
  Portland every single night while the local police did nothing to stop them.
  It was up to the half dozen FPS officers on duty to protect the place, so
  Trump sent in federal agents from across the country to back them up, and
just
  like you've done here, the leftists immediately blamed Trump's attempt to
  enforce the law and protect federal property as 'provocative' and
  'heavy-handed'.
    It's hilarious how you guys blame Trump for the dumpster fire Democrat-run
  cities have become, despite there being no constitutional authority for the
  federal government to usurp police power from state and local governments.
The
  president literally has no authority to do anything about it, yet the one
time
  he did try and address the one small part of the problem he did have
authority
  over-- protecting federal property from rioters trying to destroy it-- and
the
  Left shit kittens and demanded he withdraw the 'troops' and stay out of it.
    Even those on this newsgroup were trying to pull this nonsense:
    On 9/28/2020 01:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On 9/27/2020  10:11 AM suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
 

  Portland was a trial run for how much he [Trump] could get away with.

 

  How much he could get away with?!?!

 

  Trump sent federal cops to stop a federal courthouse and other federal
  buildings from being burned down by people whose express intent and actions
  indicated that's exactly what they were trying to do. And then he withdrew
  them after the city and state promised to do the job they'd been failing to
  do and protect the courthouse, a promise they almost immediately
  reneged on.

 

  Only in 2020 could stopping arsonists from burning down government
  buildings be considered controversial or something the president was
  'trying to get away with'.

 

  Meanwhile, those same 'mostly peaceful' protesters barricaded the
  doors to a police station and then tried to light it on fire with about
  three dozen people inside-- an attempted mass murder-- and the
  mayor and the D.A. did literally nothing about it.

 

  But Trump is the bad guy here, trying to 'get away with' something.

 

  The police/NG are also deliberately shooting reporters/journalists.  For
  the moment with rubber bullets but just the fact that they are picking
  them out specifically to shoot is extremely troubling.

    Notice how Dimensional doesn't seem to be "extremely troubled" by the
  widespread violence committed by the rioters.

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Yes.  While the rioters break laws, the cops gut principles.

 Exactly what principles have been gutted by the police in Los Angeles over the
last three days?