Re: Los Angeles Has Surrendered

On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 13:43:57 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

Mon, 09 Jun 2025 22:50:35 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>:

Mon, 9 Jun 2025 19:27:13 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>:

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Were these the same 'reports' that told you everything was 'mostly
peaceful', Dimensional? The crowd sizes were a helluva lot further
north than 100.

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https://ibb.co/HDVhqC0s

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Unless the scenes I saw were from somewhere outside the United States,
what I saw wasn't peaceful at all.

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Then you weren't looking very hard. Yes, there were protests that
weren't peaceful, but there were also protests going on with large
numbers of people that were completely peaceful. Though the violence
is what is always going to get covered the most.

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Do you think the chief of police uses a crystal ball, shawn, to make
decisions about predicting violence breaking out once large numbers of
people start protesting? Can he take that chance?

(I'm not clear what your comments have to do with my comments but hey,
I'll play along.)


He doesn't get to make that choice. If the protestors are peaceful and
following the law then there's nothing for the police to do. Sure,
they need to be around and monitoring the situation but that's the
extent of their involvement. If there is violence or law breaking then
they need to step in.

I would ask where was the police (since there seemed to be a huge
number on the streets ) where the Waymo vehicles were set on fire?
Seems to me like they may have been focused on certain
protests/locations so we get things like the cop shooting the reporter
when he's supported by numerous other officers so it wasn't out of
fear of someone actually attacking him.

I remember the George Floyd protests of 2020, the aftermath of which was
bad in Chicago but nothing like Portland or Kenosha. There was march
after march after march, intending to disrupt commerce and business (to
the extent there was any during the pandemic shutdown). During a huge
rally blocking the expensive retail shopping area along North Michigan
Avenue, to which a large police presence had been called, cops failed to
notice massive gangs of looters in another retail area just two blockks
west. I'm not buying into conspiracy here that the looting was organized
by the same people who organized the protest, but it absolutely was not
coincidental and an outcome desired by those who had organized the
protest. There is no question that they were deliberately tying up
police resources and that property crimes would escalate.