Re: [OT] Liberal MP proposes turning in his Conservative rival to China for a bounty

On Apr 1, 2025 at 7:53:53 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 4/1/2025 12:52 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

 On Mar 31, 2025 at 2:55:42 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

 On 3/31/2025 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

   On Mar 31, 2025 at 2:02:23 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
  

   On 3/31/2025 2:57 PM, Rhino wrote:

     On 2025-03-31 1:51 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

     Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
 

     A Liberal MP made a very controversial statement recently that has him
     in hot water, at least with the opposition, during the current federal
     election.

 

     Paul Chiang, a sitting Liberal MP running for re-election, wrote a
     comment in Chinese media, that his Conservative opponent, Joe Tay, a
     city councillor, should be turned in to the Chinese consulate in Toronto
     for a bounty. Tay is originally from Hong Kong where he ran afoul of the
     local authorities for his anti-Beijing activism.

 

     https://vancouversun.com/news/federal_election/transnational-
     repression-jenny-kwan-weighs-in-on-liberal-mps-chinese-bounty-quip

 

     Liberals are apparently insisting that Chiang's remark was just a joke
     but the opposition parties, Conservative and NDP alike, are calling for
     Chiang to step down and get replaced by another candidate. Mark Carney,
     the new Liberal leader, has the power to dump candidates but is
     resisting demands to dump Chiang.

 

     Given the media's love of Liberals, I'm expecting this story to die
     quickly. I was surprised to learn that Chiang was a cop for 28 years.

 
     Ok. I'm a defender of the use of off-color jokes and bitter sarcasm in
     public speech to make a point, and condemn those who infer racist or
     hate speech, taking the remarks out of context.
 
     If he were contrasting Canada as a free society with China, he could
     have said that he'd be subject to arrest in China, but in Canada, he's
     perfectly free to run against an incumbant.
 
     But a bounty? I can't imagine a scenario in which that's funny. He needs
     to apologize. What a jerk.

    
     Proposing to turn in Tay to the Chinese, when his native Hong Kong
     actually HAS a bounty on him of $153K for his pro-democracy activism is
     pretty damned ominous in my opinion.
    
     Apparently Chiang *has* apologized and that's enough for Carney but not
     for the opposition parties. I'm not sure it's enough for me either. The
     opposition parties may well be pushing this to see if it can hurt Chiang
     and/or Carney. I'm concerned that Chiang may actually be serious.
    
     Personally, many of us here are concerned about foreign powers
     manipulating our elections by helping candidates they favour and making
     it more difficult for candidates that they see as hostile to them. I
     don't want our MPs chosen by the CCP, Putin or the USA!
    
     We had a major inquiry into this matter just a year or two back,
     although I never heard a final report. I don't know if the inquiry is
     still mulling things over or if the guilty parties have somehow kept it
     from reporting. Maybe I just missed the news when it came out.

 
   You're concerned he might seriously try to bounty-hunt his opponent?
 
   Seriously?

  
   Were you concerned that Sarah Palin was seriously planning to have a
sniper
   shoot Democrat congressional candidates in the districts her website
labeled
   with crosshairs?

 
 Ummm ...no?

 
 Well, most of the Democrat establishment certainly claimed to be after the
 Loughner shooting.

 
The same "establishment" who claimed Dick Cheney didn't miss?

Perhaps. But even to this day, Democrats like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz claim
Loughner was inspired by the bullseyes on Palin's website to commit his crime,
despite all the independent law enforcement investigations into the incident
showing that Loughner was not political in any way.

So do you believe the Democrat mantra that "violent speech and imagery
inspires violence against politicians" or are the Democrats full of shit?