Sujet : Re: Presentism
De : no_offline_contact (at) *nospam* example.com (Rhino)
Groupes : rec.arts.tvDate : 09. Apr 2025, 21:11:46
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On 2025-04-09 2:49 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:
2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk:
Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
"It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several
years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed
to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening
monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on
every episode because I say "where no man has gone before" That's
Presentism at its finest hour."
What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced
version but it still has the original monologue.
Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone
full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders?
That was changed for Patrick Stewart to read in Next Generation.
Yes, I know that. I'm just trying to understand what changes they've made for the version they're showing on Paramount+ now, which have apparently drawn Shatner's ire.
In statutory language, unless it doesn't make sense, use of male gender
implies female gender. No thoughtful person ever accused Jefferson of
being anti-feminist with the phrase "All men are created equal". It just
sounded more poetic that writing with inclusive language.
Yes, I know that, too.
I'm actually okay with Picard's phrasing, although I agree it is unnecessary pandering to feminists or whoever insisted the original wording was offensive.
But I will be horrified if it turns out that the Paramount+ wording says "where no man, woman, non-binary, pan-sexual, two-spirit, queer, homosexual, lesbian, asexual etc. etc. etc. has gone before".
-- Rhino