Re: Police shooting videos leaves questions unanswered

In article <5nid1jpaeq3nj77dq7dopphbdjc2ibjhpn@4ax.com>,
 shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:05:24 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
 

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Civilian Office of Police Accountability (a city agency that investigates
police) just released video of a shooting on March 21 on the west side
of Chicago. The driver of a vehicle pulled over for a traffic stop,
a 26 year old man, is dead. Police say he shot first (not clear from
provided video); four officers fired. One police officer was hit in the
forearm. There is video from a neighbor's surveillance camera that
implies that the officer, on the passenger side of the vehicle, was hit.
 
The office recommends relieving police officers who shot at the man of
powers during the investigation. I think that means full suspension with
pay, not just desk duty.
 
Now, for a traffic stop, the vehicle was surrounded by multiple tacticle
officers. This makes no sense.

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And yet it happens.
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Way back when I was in high school people thought it was funny to peel the
little update tag off other peoples license plates. I was on my way home
from school and some cop noticed the missing tag. He not only pulled me
over he called in and I found myself surrounded by three police cars and
six policeman.  Who have collared a teenage kid in a 71 gremlin a block
from his parents house.
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Now I knew about the tag but back in those days the only place you could
get a replacement tag was halfway to where BTR lives and it was only open
during banking hours on weekdays. So I had to write for a replacement tag
or skip a day of school. I had a copy of the request for the replacement
tag in my glove box, and in fact it had been processed and the tag was on
the way.

 
Sounds like what happened to a friend of mine back in college. He was
driving home when he found himself pulled over with multiple cops with
guns pulled out and pointed at him in the car because his car matched
one used in a bank robbery.

Same happened to me in Maryland as me and three other agents were on our
way back to the office from lunch. We found ourselves surrounded at an
intersection by cop cars on all sides, cops piling out and pointing guns
at us. There'd been a bank robbery a few miles away minutes before and
the thieves shot someone as they fled in a red Dodge Charger. I was
driving a red Dodge Charger.

The cops were screaming at me to shut off the car and get out and I knew
the last thing I wanted to do was get out of the car in front of all
these adrenaline-hyped guys who are pointing guns at me with my own gun
on my waist. Yes, there was a badge right next to it but why risk your
life on betting they don't have tunnel vision? So I turned off the car
and then activated all the police lights on my car--front windshield,
grill, both side windows, and rear, burped the siren a few times, and
then turned on my radio's PA and blasted out for them all to hear,
"There are four armed federal agents in this vehicle. Run the tags and
you can verify the agency it is registered to. We'll wait with our hands
visible while you confirm. We do not want to emerge from this car with
our duty pistols on our persons with 20 cops pointing guns at us."

Thirty seconds goes by and all the cops lower their guns and we get out
and resolve the issue.