Re: BIDEN: "Trump Won't Denounce Political Violence!"

On 4/14/24 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

In article <uvgtgb$3n4e9$1@dont-email.me>,
  "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
 

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

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And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of them,
since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is the duty of
every president.

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[Fred Phelps citing headline]

Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests

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Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does and that
Biden has condemned them?

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Wow. Baby steps, I guess.

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Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?

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It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.

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LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
courthouse every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love,
was it?

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I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a body
that organizes something. A protest was organized by those tweeting.

 Of course Effa is full of it here. Even his fellow leftists recognize
Antifa as a thing, not just some ephemeral 'concept'.
 He acts like since they don't issue membership cards they're not a group.
 

fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization, even
without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or unincorporated
society with charters and bylaws and other organic documents. Working
together by passing the word along is what made them an organization.
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It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common purpose
is all that's necessary to be an organization.

Two dumbfucks don't make a right.
 From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two ignorant fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.

Antifa has seen a steady increase in media attention ever since former President Donald Trump took office in January 2017. Republicans often portray antifa as a highly organized group of "terrorists" worthy of national watch lists. Some conspiracy theorists falsely blamed antifa for the January 6 Capitol riots that led to five deaths.
Right-wing media blames antifa members for rioting and looting. Democrats have also condemned such violence, but many on the left say the rhetoric about antifa is greatly exaggerated, and that it's less of an organized movement than just something of "an idea."
But much of what politicians say about antifa isn't quite true. Here's what antifa is, what it isn't, and what you need to know.
Anti, anti, anti...
Antifa is not a highly organized movement, nor is it merely an idea. Antifa is a loose affiliation of local activists scattered across the United States and a few other countries.
The term "antifa" is short for anti-fascist; it's used both by its adherents and its foes.

Link here... but be warned, it downloads a pdf.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20210512/112524/HHRG-117-GO00-20210512-SD006.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjPj6TQ5sOFAxUyjYkEHZOpC_wQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1KOG9CFyalfulaaumX4H7H

Antifa has no official national leadership, though followers have organized themselves into small, local cells that sometimes coordinate with other movements, such as Black Lives Matter. Some self-described antifa adherents have organized to confront Patriot Prayer, the Proud Boys, and other far-right groups during public demonstrations. Some of those rallies have devolved into violence.

Some antifa adherents keep a very low profile, while other local groups venture to give themselves a more public profile with a name and a website. One of the oldest such groups appears to be Rose City Antifa, which says it was founded in Portland, Oregon, in 2007. According to its website, its main focus is "any work that prevents fascist organizing, and when that is not possible, provides consequences to fascist organizers. This is supported by researching and tracking fascist organizations."

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