Re: The Old vs The New

On 11/18/2024 8:43 AM, shawn wrote:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:07:46 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
 

On 11/18/2024 1:25 AM, shawn wrote:

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:25:13 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:17:36 -0500, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
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Ideally, in my opinion,  Hamas would be gone and the Palestinian
people would be allowed to control their own fate but that doesn't
seem likely to happen in my lifetime, if ever. Israel is just helping
to win more people over to Hamas by their killing of innocent
civilians in an attempt to wipe out Hamas leaders. Which just means
the fighting will likely keep going on and on and on.

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Given HAMAS routinely uses 'innocent civilians' as human shields if
the Israeli soldier spots the HAMAS guy with a weapon he's going to
shoot first and ask questions later.
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At best, that's going to mean a wounded civilian - which is just going
to mean the HAMAS fighter is going to grab yetanother "shield" next
time  he sees an Israeli.
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While I agree with you on your point about winning more people over,
what's their option besides surrendering to HAMAS?

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I don't know that they have one. At least not a good one. With a few
million people to hide among even preventing Hamas from launching the
occasional rocket attack is going to be impossible.
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Though I wonder if they treated the Gazan residents better if they
could have won over their support for Israel at getting rid of Hamas.
I'm not sure it could work now but at least making sure Gaza is
getting food/water/medical supplies would limit the # of people who
might support Hamas.

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Hamas is the group that is "appropriating" the food/water/medicine sent
to Gaza.

 I know but Israel has also been limiting the support available. If
they didn't there would be more food/water/medicine coming in than
Hamas could take control of. There's no lack of supplies available if
only it were easy to get them into Gaza.

What makes you think Hamas wouldn't just destroy whatever supplies they couldn't keep?  They are LONG past the point of thinking "We must make our fellow Palestinians miserable and desperate so they will hate the Jews more and join us in killing them!"
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