Re: Has anyone heard from BTR1701 today?

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 03:23:57 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 21:03:38 -0500, EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:
 

On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:13:03 -0800, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
 

On 1/9/2025 11:35 AM, danny burstein wrote:

In <rm80oj1c9filnvhokppl5afldcba1el0op@4ax.com> EGK <memyself@null.net> writes:
 

On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 18:58:16 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
wrote:

 

In <pu50ojla2af5rhitqg8db2labidg34qbio@4ax.com> EGK <memyself@null.net> writes:
 
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Newsom claimed there was plenty of water but reports are water mains to
fight the fires ran dry.

 
If you try really, really, hard, maybe you could figure out how
opening 250 hydrants near the reserviour might cause some problems
for the ones farther downstream.

 

So again, they were totally unprepared for this.

 
damn, you're dumb
 
 

Yeah, who can prepare for 80 mph wind in SoCalm in conjunction with
fire. Never happened before.

 
There was no brush management to cut and dispose of brush that fed the
fire.  They had a lack of infrastructure so water could be pumped under
pressure to higher elevations.   They cut the fire department budget by 18
million dollars.  They had evacuation plans that looks like something out of
the keystone cops.

 
Given the 800 something million dollar budget I'm not sure the 18
million dollars would have made a difference. The water issue is one
that they could have dealt with BUT it would have meant spending
millions of dollars to have the pumping infrastructure to handle the
massive demand that might never have arrived. They had plenty of
pumping availability for normal usage but multiple fires at one time
all needing water to fight the fires was too much for them.
 
I'm not sure the voters would have been happy spending the millions of
dollars needed to be ready for a day like this.

>
We'd have been happier spending it on fire preparation than throwing
another billion into the black hole of 'homeless relief', where the money
literally just disappears without a trace and the number of vagrants only
grows higher. Even Newsom had to grudgingly admit he has no idea where over
$20 billion in homeless funding went to. There's no record where it was
spent, who spent it, what they spent it on, and whether it did any good or
not.

Put the vagrants to work clearing the brush. Oh wait, you can't clear
the brush.. Put the homeless living in the brush. Then the money spent
on homeless can be spent on fire prevention to keep their homes safe.
It's a win-win proposition.


How can they not know where the money went? I get how it happens in
the federal government since they give out money like crazy at times
and have various black projects that won't show up on any budget, but
that's not (or shouldn't) be the case for any state government. If
they can't keep track of the money then maybe they shouldn't spend any
more until they can.

You can't prevent but you sure as hell can do a better job to prepare.
Instead politicians will just wave their hands and blame "climate change".

 
Well it's easier to do that than to fight the voters to spend the
money where it is needed on the off chance they get multiple fires
going at once. I'm not saying they shouldn't have spent the money.
Just that you know the voters would have fought them on it.

>
No, we wouldn't have. Voters here don't fight them about anything other
than Trump. Politicians here can fail spectacularly-- even cost people
their lives with their appalling policies-- and the voters will reward them
with reelection over and over again.

That's sounding a bit like NYC from what I see in Cash Jordan's
Youtube videos. Where they seem to have two groups of voters. One
believes they need to provide shelter to anyone that asks for it
without cost, while the others realize they can't house anyone that
comes to the city forever. Especially with rents continuing to rise in
the city to the point where many of the working class can barely
afford their apartments.