Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense

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De : no_offline_contact (at) *nospam* example.com (Rhino)
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Date : 02. Mar 2025, 15:36:16
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On 2025-03-02 1:57 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
California bill introduced to change the definition of homicide to make it
even harder to assert a valid claim of self-defense.
  https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1333
 After armed residents in the Palisades and Altadena were forced (due to the
absence of police patrols) to defend themselves and their homes from hordes of
looters after the fires, our feckless leaders in Sacramento are apparently
very concerned that criminals might get hurt or killed while committing their
crime, so they've introduced AB 1333 to change the official definition of
homicide to to limit the circumstances where self-defense would apply.
 It's amazing that after what Los Angeles went through with those fires, with
the appalling failure and incompetency of government at all levels, that the
first response of the state legislature is to say, "Gee, maybe we should make
it safer for the looters to ransack people's homes in a disaster area. We'd
hate to see any of them get hurt while doing their looting."
 Among other things, if this becomes law, you will only be able to use the same
level of force as your attacker. So if someone attacks you with a bat or a
knife and you shoot them, you’re a murderer.
  
As luck would have it, I was watching a video just yesterday that identified the same rules in a rather different jurisdiction: Russia. They also have strong limitations on when you can defend yourself and how strongly. If you use more force than the attacker, you are the bad guy and you're the one that's going to be living in the Graybar Hotel for a decade or more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djI8UF3moJU [15 minutes]
Note: This video talks about more than just self-defense in Russia but I think you'll enjoy the whole video. ;-)
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Rhino

Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Mar 25 * California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense7BTR1701
2 Mar 25 +- Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense1Rhino
2 Mar 25 +* Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense2moviePig
2 Mar 25 i`- Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense1Rhino
2 Mar 25 `* Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense3Adam H. Kerman
2 Mar 25  +- Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense1Rhino
2 Mar 25  `- Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense1BTR1701

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