Re: I Salute the Democrat Party

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

Thu, 6 Mar 2025 13:23:25 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

He completely mishandled the Iranian hostage affair which allowed the
Ayatollahs to rise to the level they're at now - and post 1980 Iran
WAS beyond question and remains the guiding force between HAMAS, the
Houthis and the now former Syrian government.

No. The Shah had long fled the country. The hostage affair was about
giving the Shah a safe place to land in order to receive medical care.

Carter had no ability to keep the Shah in power nor make a smooth
transition to a republican.

Oh I'm well aware of that - and also that the Iranians had threatened
hostile action if the Shah was given entry to the United States.

If you were arguing the rescue mission wasn't sufficiently provided
with helicopters (they only had 3 and one failed mechanically over
Iranian territory) I'd completely agree with you - no question the
special forces had learned their lessons by they time they hit Bin
Laden in 2011

I made no such argument. The military action failed. Thereafter, the
Pentagon revised Special Forces training, so there were lessons learned.

You accused Jimmy Carter of mishandling the hostage affair and allowing
the Ayatollah to take power. Of course I disagreed because there was
nothing to agree with. You didn't tell us what you feel Carter
mishandled. Grabbing diplomats was an act of war. You wanted Carter to
escalate into a full-blown conflict with Iran? Something less than that?

Follow through on your thought.