Re: Regular MSNBC Guest: All Laws Passed Before 1965 Should Be "Presumptively Unconstitutional"

On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 17:45:15 -0400, Rhino
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On 2025-04-07 4:15 PM, moviePig wrote:

On 4/7/2025 3:48 PM, Rhino wrote:

On 2025-04-07 3:05 PM, moviePig wrote:

On 4/7/2025 2:36 PM, Rhino wrote:

On 2025-04-07 12:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Apr 7, 2025 at 1:30:50 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
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Regular MSNBC guest and justice correspondent for The Nation Elie
Mystal
claimed on Tuesday that virtually all laws passed prior to 1965
should be
considered "presumptively unconstitutional".
>
"Yes, absolutely," Mystal declared. "One of my premises for the
book is that
every law passed before the 1965 Voting Rights Act should be
presumptively
unconstitutional, right? Because before the 1965 Voting Rights
Act, we were
functionally an apartheid country. Not everybody who lived here
could vote
here."

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This flesh-blob and his goofy white 'fro is not only ridiculously
hard-left
but he doesn't even make any sense.
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First, it's *still* the case that not everyone who lives here can
vote here.
Foreign nationals, both legal and illegal, cannot vote even if they
live
here.
>
He says every pre-1965 law is unconstitutional but the Constitution
itself is
a pre-1965 law. So this idiot must believe the Constitution is
unconstitutional, which is a logical and legal impossibility.
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Mystal often appears on MSNBC, and even joined network host and
former
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele just two
days prior to
joining THE VIEW. During that appearance, he claimed that the Trump
administration's efforts to deport criminal illegal aliens and
gang members
amounted to "fascism".

>
Yes, it's fascist to take a violent thug who snuck into the country
illegally
and then committed more crimes against Americans while here, and
send his ass
back to wherever he came from.
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Sure.  <rolls eyes>
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Literally everything is "fascist" to these people now. Most of them
don't even
know what the word actually means.
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Worse yet, most of them don't even reflect on the fact that they
don't know what "fascist" really means. They use it as a synonym for
everything they hate. I've seen a few cases where someone asks them
what the word "fascist" means to them and the response is always an
embarrassed pause as they realize that they don't know. But they
never actually seem to make an effort to find out and keep throwing
the word around with abandon.
>
If they had an ounce of sincerity in them, their leaders would
figure out that they've made the word meaningless and start using
different words in their rhetoric so that their statements made at
least a little bit of sense. But I've never seen that happen: they
just keep using "fascist" and keep weakening their statements as a
result. They become a laughingstock as they keep making accusations
of fascism which the listener *knows* is a word they don't understand.
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But hey, I'm fine with that. It just makes it easier to tell you're
listening to a yammerhead that has no idea what he's talking about
so that you can ignore what he's saying.

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"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist
political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial
leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of
opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of
individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race,
and strong regimentation of society and the economy."  -Wiki
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How many of those dozen or so qualities are necessary for something
to qualify as truly fascist?
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If that's the definition you're going with, you need to explain
exactly how Trump, the Republicans, and America in general are
"fascist" cecause that's exactly what your Leftist brothers constantly
insist.

 
I'm not "going with it", it's just the first that Googled up.  But I
think it serves as evidence of an inherently problematic label.
 

I ss that you completely ignored my challenge to show how Trump, the
Republicans or the USA is fascist. Instead, you chose to quibble about
the definition that you yourself offered.

Fascist tendencies in Trump: A comparison to Hitler's rise | DW News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgPzDctPM8


Is the US descending into fascism? Interview with Professor Jason
Stanley | DW News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geRic3w01ng


Is President Trump Fascist? | NYT Opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QK1IVi4REI


I wouldn't call him a fascist but there are certainly some tendencies
that go along with fascism as pointed out in the above videos.