Re: California: 15 is Too Young to Ride in Front Seat

On Apr 7, 2025 at 2:16:21 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:

On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 20:05:23 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
 

On Apr 7, 2025 at 12:47:31 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
 

 On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 18:28:26 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
 wrote:
 

 On Apr 7, 2025 at 11:02:49 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
wrote:
 

  BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

  Apr 5, 2025 at 4:32:10 PM PDT, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:

  2025-04-05 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

 

  Wait, so California says children as young as 12 can "change their gender"
  and consent to life-altering medical procedures without their parents'
  consent (or even knowledge) but they're not mature enough to ride in the
  front seat of a car until they're 16.

 

  The California legislature seems to be permanently set on April Fools Clown
  Mode.

 

  https://ibb.co/4RnTHKLt

 

  They may have gotten the idea from the Brits. It's been illegal for kids
  under 16 (or it may be 14) to sit in the front seat in the UK for quite
  a few years.

 

  My question (beyond the absurdity mentioned above) is what if you don't
  have a back seat? There are plenty of sports cars that only have a
  driver and a passenger seat and a lot of pickup trucks also don't have
  back seats. Do you have to go out and buy a whole new vehicle just to
  accommodate this silly law?

 
  As always, it's so much worse than you say.
 
  I have no idea what equipment is required in the UK. In the US,
  passenger-side airbags are required. The driver's side airbag is much
  smaller because of the proximity of the steering wheel but the dashboard is
  farther away. In a crash, a child is in far more danger of a neck injury
  from the inflation of the airbag than concussion from hitting his head
  on the windshield.
 
  The statute requiring passenger-side airbags is routinely cited as
  having done more harm than good, resulting in more deaths than lives
  saved. Parents may put infants in car seats in the passenger seat. This is
  not negligence but misunderstanding, for there's no reason why an infant,
  properly restrained in a car seat in the passenger seat, wouldn't survive
  a crash with just bruising. But due to the airbag's inflation, the infant
  will die. Depending on how much an older child or teenager weighs, yeah,
  the airbag might cause serious trauma or death when the seatbelt with
  shoulder harness would have been sufficient.

 
 So if we're going to have an intrusive nanny-state law like this, shouldn't
 it
 at least be size based, not age based? Wouldn't Peter Dinklage at age 55 be
 in
 just as much danger as a 13-year-old?
 

 
 I should have read ahead.. Some pistachio almond ice cream headed your
 way.

 
Just make sure it melts. I don't want any of that anim8r ice cream that can
sit on an Arizona sidewalk in high summer and not melt!
 

 
You don't want some Great Value ice cream sandwiches?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpdwJudCTlQ

Yep, I posted about this kind of freakish Frankenstein-like Anim ice cream
earlier in the week.