Re: California: 15 is Too Young to Ride in Front Seat

On Apr 8, 2025 at 6:30:09 AM PDT, "Nyssa" <Nyssa@logicalinsight.net> wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:
 

 On Apr 5, 2025 at 4:32:10 PM PDT, "Rhino"
 <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
 

 On 2025-04-05 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
 

  Wait, so California says children as young as 12 can
  "change their gender" and consent to life-altering
  medical procedures without their parents' consent (or
  even knowledge) but they're not mature enough to ride
  in the front seat of a car until they're 16.
 
  The California legislature seems to be permanently set
  on April Fools Clown Mode.
 
  https://ibb.co/4RnTHKLt
 

 They may have gotten the idea from the Brits. It's been
 illegal for kids under 16 (or it may be 14) to sit in the
 front seat in the UK for quite a few years.

 
 My question (beyond the absurdity mentioned above) is what
 if you don't have a back seat? There are plenty of sports
 cars that only have a driver and a passenger seat and a
 lot of pickup trucks also don't have back seats. Do you
 have to go out and buy a whole new vehicle just to
 accommodate this silly law?
 

 For what it's worth, I completely agree that it is beyond
 absurd for kids under 18 to get "gender-affirming"
 medications or surgery without parental consent. (Even if
 they had parental consent, I'd hope some of the people
 who had those meds or procedures would turn around and
 sue their parents eventually once they grew up a little
 and realized what a bad idea it was.)

 
In many places, kids can get their learner's permit and/or
a driver's license at 15.

Yes, there are some places where the nanny-state laws conflict with other
laws, like driving. In some states, a kid can get a driver permit that allows
them to drive a car by themselves but since they're still a minor, they're not
allowed outside unsupervised, so they're committing a violation of the law by
using the permit the state gave them.

How are they supposed to learn to drive from the backseat?
 
Nyssa, who knows that some 15 year olds can be on the tall
and bulky side, especially those who play basketball,
football, and other sports or just have tall parents and
have a growth spurt