Re: Self defense injustice in the UK

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>:

Jun 5, 2025 at 8:26:42 AM PDT, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>:

6/5/2025 12:57 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jun 4, 2025 at 5:06:29 PM PDT, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>:

Sat, 31 May 2025 22:48:37 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>:

I'm guessing that, if he'd tried instead to choke her to death, then her
knifing him would've been allowed as self-defense ...suggesting that
rape isn't a serious enough offense to warrant lethal reprisal.

I'm undecided where exactly the dividing line should be in
self-defence cases but it definitely ought to be shy of "lie back and
think of the Empire"!

I you've broken into my home, then you're leaving in a body bag if I
have anything to say about it. My dividing line is the threshold of
the doors and windows.

Well, that does kinda elevate simple burglary into a capital crime.

If you don't want to be shot to death while breaking into someone's home
to steal from them, there's a 100% effective way of guaranteeing that
never happens to you: don't break into people's homes and steal from them.

What the fuck is moviePig talking about? Simple and aggravated offenses
typically apply to violent crimes, not burglaries. Burglary is a crime
of intent in which the perpetrator has entered the premisis of another
for the purpose of committing theft. The burglary has occurred
regardless of whether the theft was successfully committed and the
perpetrator has gotten away. It may be charged in conjunction with other
crimes like breaking and entering and trespass.

If the burglar encounters a resident and doesn't immediately retreat,
then there is a high likelihood of the burglar, who has invaded
someone's home, turning violent. The possibility of the hone invader
becoming violent is what moviePig means by "simple burglary"?

If moviePig, living in the UK, obeyed the law of self defense and
wasn't carrying any weapon that was contraband even if used in self
defense or in defense of another, were killed by the home invader, is
that what he means by simple burglary?

I think I've translated correctly from moviePig English into English.