Re: Self defense injustice in the UK

On 6/5/2025 2:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Jun 5, 2025 at 11:32:30 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

On 6/5/2025 1:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

  On Jun 5, 2025 at 8:26:42 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

  On 6/5/2025 12:57 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Jun 4, 2025 at 5:06:29 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
   

    On Sat, 31 May 2025 22:48:37 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
    wrote:
>

    I'm guessing that, if he'd tried instead to choke her to death, then her
    knifing him would've been allowed as self-defense ...suggesting that
    rape isn't a serious enough offense to warrant lethal reprisal.
>

    I'm undecided where exactly the dividing line should be in
    self-defence cases but it definitely ought to be shy of "lie back and
    think of the Empire"!

        I you've broken into my home, then you're leaving in a body bag if I have
    anything to say about it. My dividing line is the threshold of the
doors and
    windows.

>
  Well, that does kinda elevate simple burglary into a capital crime.

  If you don't want to be shot to death while breaking into someone's home to
steal from them, there's a 100% effective way of guaranteeing that never
happens to you: don't break into people's homes and steal from them.

>
That has a smidgen of resonance with "let them eat cake".

 No one has a right to my property and they certainly don't have a right to put
me and my family in danger when trying to take it.
 Fuck around and find out.

Chest-thumping aside... your proposed law, as I extrapolate it, awards a homeowner cancellation rights over the life of any intruder.  A parallel that comes to mind is the Old West's summary lynching of horse thieves ...but the rationale there (I'm told) was that a horse back then was essential to survival, making the theft of one a "capital" crime.