Re: Los Angeles Has Surrendered

On 6/10/2025 5:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Jun 10, 2025 at 2:03:46 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

On 6/10/2025 1:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

  On Jun 10, 2025 at 8:00:47 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

  On 6/9/2025 10:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Jun 9, 2025 at 7:43:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
   

    On 6/9/2025 8:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

      moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

      On 6/9/2025 5:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

      On Jun 9, 2025 at 1:57:24 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
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      On 6/9/2025 3:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>
      Lemme get this straight... the open borders crowd cries foul
that mean old
      ICE is deporting "hard-working families just trying to find a
  better life", so
      ICE says, okay, we'll shift our focus to the straight-up evil criminal
      shitbag illegal aliens and deport them, and the moviePigs of the
  world then
      say that's *also* unacceptable because it "traps" Democrat
  politicians into
      looking bad when they stand up to oppose ICE.
>
      Wow.

>
      "Relax, Trump's monkeys are eating only the *rotten* bananas..."

>
      So we should not enforce the immigration laws of the United
States against
      anyone at all because at a minimum, it'll trick Democrats into
  rooting for the
      wrong people.
>
      Gotcha.

>
      Sure.  If you can buy that Trump won't go after "hard-working families",
      you can buy anything.

            They never claimed they wouldn't pursue deportation on every illegal
  alien.
      They said they would prioritize the 600,000 or so illegal alien
criminals
      that Biden allowed into the country without so much as a routine
  background
      check, but that ultimately anyone who is here illegally is subject to
      deportation.

>
    Yet you wonder why some protest ICE arresting even The Dirty Dozen...

        I don't wonder it. I acknowledge there are people who believe that the
  United
    States, alone among all the nations of the world, for some reason has no
  right
    to control its own borders or enforce any kind of immigration law. It's
    nonsense, it's ridiculous, it's a recipe for national suicide, and it's
the
    single most significant reason why Trump won the election, but I don't
  pretend
    these people don't exist.
        I do, however, wonder why *you* seem to be one of them.

>
  You seem self-blinded to the complicating factor of humanitarianism
  ...which, to varying degrees, *everyone's* saddled with.

    Again, every other nation on earth controls its borders without having to
  shrink away because of 'humanitarianism'. The Left strangely believes on the
  United States should bear this burden.

>
Sensible borders have never been attempted by either the Right or Left,
afaik.  But here we're talking about the inhumanity of ICE seizures.

 (1) Immigration seizures are a necessary and major component of national
border control.
 (2) ICE seizures wouldn't be necessary if Biden hadn't thrown open the border
in a free-for-all.
 The Left doesn't get to create this massive mess, then complain that the
people cleaning up their mess are 'inhumane' for doing so.

Seizures aren't rendered humane by being "necessary" ...and many people will complain about them regardless of where original blame is laid.