Re: Make It Make Sense

On 6/26/2025 6:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Jun 26, 2025 at 2:22:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

On 6/26/2025 3:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

  On Jun 17, 2025 at 8:08:53 PM PDT, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
 

  https://ibb.co/RknV5xzr
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  Misdemeanor charge + $2000 fine
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  https://ibb.co/SD6RcDVp
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  Man in Rhode Island was arrested after he allegedly made a skid mark on a
  Pride Rainbow crosswalk with his car.
>
  The city allowing a "pride" crosswalk in the first place is a 1A violation.
  If
  I asked for a permit to paint an anti-troon mural in the crosswalk (or a
  pro-gun/2A message), I bet they wouldn't give me one. The government is
  allowing some political and social messages but not others based on their
own
  politics.
>
  Where are the DOJ lawsuits against rainbow murals being painted on city
  streets (to the exclusion of all other non-'progressive' messages) and then
  treated like religious icons?

    It's happened again.
  >
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1937932161073463297/vid/avc1/1080x1920/6o-22WzrJXx4UGjG.mp4
    Teenagers rip up some rainbow flags. Four are arrested and, according to the
  Atlanta PD, a manhunt-- yes, you read that right-- is on for the other two.
    My first question is, of course, arrested for what?
    Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989). The Supreme Court ruled that flag
  desecration is protected speech under the 1st Amendment: "It's both symbolic
  speech and political speech."
    If it's legal to desecrate the U.S. flag, it's legal to desecrate the flag
of
  the Password People.
    "But wait," the apologists like FPP will say, "It's not legal to destroy
  something that doesn't belong to you. These kids took those flags off the
  streetlight poles! That's a crime!"
    While this may be true, it's a crime that's strangely only enforced against
  people hostile to the 'progressive' Agenda:
    Anti-ICE protester pulls down a U.S. flag from a government pole and burns
it:
  no consequences.
    Teenager pulls down a gay Rainbow Mafia flag from a government pole and rips
  it up: straight to prison.

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Afaics, FPP is present only in your recall.

 No, I've got a digital archive of all my posts. My newsreader auto-copies
every post I make into a text document on my computer. That necessarily means
I have a whole lot of FPP's claims saved as well, quoted in posts in which I
responded to him.

But you're speaking as though he were here and speaking for himself.

But, no, it's not legal to burn the U.S. flag in a fireworks factory. Your
rainbow-burning teen
would've been charged with a hate crime, not property destruction.

 He can't be charged with only a hate crime. Hate crime is an enhancement to a
predicate crime. One has to be charged with a crime first and only then can
the hate enhancement be applied. But nevertheless, the enhancement is for the
speech, the thought, the emotion, therefore speech is being prosecuted. The
extra punishment you get over and above what you would get for the theft of
the flag alone is punishment for your speech, which should not be allowed
under the 1st Amendment.

Well, that "enhancement" structure is twisted logic, imo, but so be it. I'm pointing out that the presence of a flag has no bearing on the actions we'd (presumably) like to discourage.