Re: Canadia Welcomes Trump Refugees

On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 19:20:16 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

BTR1701  <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Jul 15, 2025 at 1:11:33 AM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 13:15:32 -0400, Rhino
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But politically, Canada IS a lot like California: too damn many
"progressives" willing to vote for the Liberal Party despite their
massive incompetence and malicious indifference to fiscal sense. The
Liberals just keep spending money, despite deficits ballooning beyond
anything this country has ever seen.
 
I hope you don't think Canadians are particularly happy about this turn
of events. Remember, Canadians have no say - and have NEVER had any
direct say - over immigration policy. The federal government sets that
policy and only major issues can cause them to modify it and even then,
any modifications are temporary. For instance, it became abundantly
clear to everyone that we admitted too many people in recent years,
particularly students on visas who often didn't actually go to school
and instead worked full time. This caused housing to be extremely short
and overwhelmed our health care system so the Liberals TEMPORARILY
reduced numbers for a couple of years. Meanwhile, they have expressed
eagerness to take in refugees from Gaza, as if we don't have enough
disruption of things by students and professional protesters at
pro-Hamas demonstrations. I remember a cabinet minister insisting that
the need to bring in Gazans was so severe that we needed to abandon
vetting because that might delay rescuing these people!

 
While I agree with you, I feel extremely strongly that Donald Trump
personally interfered in April's Canadian election in a way that's
beyond the pale. By his intervention he turned an election from a 25
point Conservative party lead into a 2 point win (at least in popular
vote - by district count it was much more of a win) for the Liberals -
the party of Justin Trudeau who if anything was even crazier than Joe
Biden in his last days.
 
Part of the problem is that the Canadian federal government has given
Quebec the right to vet their own immigrants - BUT once they're
admitted to Canada they have the right to leave Quebec and move to any
province they choose - meaning Quebec gets to keep their fees and
these peoples' new homes get the cost without federal financial help.
 
And Justin Trudeau more than doubled the immigration rate from when he
took office. Basically Canada's population has increased 15-20% since
Trudeau took office in November 2015. Roughly 35% came from China, 25%
from India - but that does not count 'refugees' many of whom come from
places where one can reasonably question whether they actually had to
flee. That ALSO doesn't include foreigners on student visas, a fair
number of which turned out NOT to be attending school when the
Canadian government did an audit.
 
Needless to say that's been having a social impact.
 
But no question, had Trump said nothing Mark Carney would not have won
April's election.
 
And directly interfering in an ally's electoral process is about the
most heinous offence one can do - other than declaring war or imposing
ruinous tariffs..... so while last November I felt Trump was far
better than Harris mostly because I felt the Gaza war was primarily
caused by Biden's weakness on foreign policy now I'm wondering...

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Nothing to wonder about. Had Harris won, we'd have already had another 2
million *more* illegals in the country than when Biden left office and Iran
would still be lobbing missiles and making nuclear bombs instead of sorting
through the rubble and agreeing to concessions at a negotiating table.

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If Trump hadn't won in 2016, he wouldn't have been in office to pull out
of Obama's nuclear deal in the first place.

What does this have to do with what Harris's policies would have been?
Sounds like a diversion to me.