Re: 20 FAVE DUETS FROM .......1960

On Dec 10, 2024 at 4:54:33 PM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:02:37 +0000, Mark wrote:
 

On Dec 9, 2024 at 11:07:59 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
 

Diane and I often disagree on colors. She'll say something is red and I
will say that it's maroon. We are both being objective, but see it
differently.

 
Sorry, but what we see (or hear or taste or smell) is not necessarily
objective. An objective statement is purely factual and provable. Our
senses
can give us only subjective info since a) we can't demonstrate that
they're
not just particular to ourselves because of brains possibly "sensing"
the same
stimulus differently.
 
--md

 
So you can't say that a statement is objective until you research
whether or not it's factual and provable?

Read again. I said that our senses generally aren't reliable when it comes to
objectivity. If one person says it's red and another says it's purple the
argument has to stop since there is no "objective" way for them discover who
it "right." Colors are produced in our brains. What's actually out there are
just light rays with different wavelengths.

 
And this can change over time, like at one time if you said "Pluto is a
planet in our solar system" that would have been factual and provable 50
years ago, but now the scientific community has said that Pluto is not a
planet.

This is merely a matter of definition being changed by the scentists. Pluto,
and our "objective" ideas about how big it is and what it's orbit is remain
unchanged.

--md