Re: CHESS LABEL FAVORITES

On Sat, 10 May 2025 21:44:05 +0000, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 10 May 2025 18:40:12 +0000, Roger wrote:
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On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:51:21 +0000, Bruce wrote:
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On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:35:50 +0000, Roger wrote:
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On Fri, 9 May 2025 18:41:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:
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Roger, do you agree with the following statement?
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Atlantic's biggest hit single of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby
Darin.

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I think its better(and more accurately) presented as "Atlantic's biggest
hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the
subsidiary Atco label"

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I don't see that as "more accurate." They are both just as accurate. One
just adds extra non pertinent information. The actual label on the 45
does not in any way change the crux of the statement.
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That's nonsense! The description I used conveys more accurate
information which is certainly pertinent and which is consequently more
accurate than yours

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In order for yours to be "more accurate" there must be something about
mine that is inaccurate.
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Yours goes into more detail, but that's very different from being "more
accurate."
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If I say "JFK won the 1960 Presidential election" and you say "JFK won
the 1960 presidential election when he beat Richard Nixon," yours is not
more accurate at all. It's just more detailed. Something does not become
"more accurate" when more details are added.
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If someone else said "JFK from Massachusetts won the 1960 Presidential
election when he beat Richard Nixon of California, it is not more
accurate than saying "JFK won the 1960 presidential election when he
beat Richard Nixon," it's just more detailed, but just as accurate.
Something does not become more accurate merely because more details are
added. More thorough, maybe, but not more accurate.

All true yes but the example does not really compare to the Darin
statement

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If I take your "Mack The Knife" statement of "Atlantic's biggest hit
single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the
subsidiary Atco label."
And add to it so it now says "Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's
was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the subsidiary Atco label #6147,
with the song "Was There A Call For Me" on the flip side." That does not
make the statement more accurate, just more detailed. In fact, I would
say that overall it would be worse to add extra information because it
takes some of the focus off of the main point that is trying to be made.

I agree with that. THe flipside info whilst accurate is,in this
case,pretty irrelevant

So, "more detailed" is not necessarily "more accurate," ad sometimes it
can cause the reader to miss the main point of the statement. The reader
may really like the song on the flip side and focus more on that while
not really absorbing the main point of the statement.

The bone of contention here is that your statement ""Atlantic's biggest
hit
single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin" might have
"newbies"
looking for it--in vain--on the Atlantic listing posted the other day.
In that sense whilst true it can also be said to be misleading
Therefore my revised statement adding "on the subsidary Atco label"
certainly makes the sentence more accurate

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