Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?

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Sujet : Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.astro sci.electronics.design
Date : 06. Feb 2026, 14:38:18
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On 6/02/2026 11:10 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 6/02/2026 5:23 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
=?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester <thanks-to@Taf.com>wrote:
Jan Panteltje schreef:
|--------------------------------------------------------------|
|"I also think 'science' should stop babbling about infinities,|
|mamaticians doing a divide by zero all the time               |
| Singularities                                                |
|There are no 'infinities' in nature!"                         |
|--------------------------------------------------------------|
>
Maybe you will like the light-is-a-gravitational-wave theory of Roger
Brewis.
(S. http://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
>
If EM radiation is a 'state' of the Le Sage particles than much is simplyfied,
gravity then moves at the speed of light, gravitational lensing, etc etc.
>
Photons as Le Sage particles? It doesn't work. For every problem there
is a solution that is simple, convincing and wrong, and Jan is great at
finding them - for a certain rather low value of "convincing".
 Elaborate a bit one why it does not work.
Google is your friend.

Photons as a state_ of LS particles.
Have you any idea what that might mean? It certainly doesn't strike me as any kind of meaningful exoression.

I think I did read somewhere gravity moves at the speed of light.
Gravity waves seem to. LIGO apparently picked up an incipient binary neutron star fusion early enough for optical telescopes to be pointed at the right spot to see the optical output.

Or light moves at the speed of gravity then,
So in Lhe Sage theory very likely EM radiation is just a magnetized or charged state of those LS particles.
All we do is 'activate' those to make EM radiation.
"All"?

I do not need the Nobel prize, that is all corrupt anyways,
but really the probability that it would be different particles with exactly the same speed is not very high.
Einstein's general relativity theory that makes space-time four dimensional, with time as the imaginary fourth dimension, means that every point in the universe is effectively in contact with an ever-enlarging sphere whose surface is sufficiently far away that the sum of the squares of the normal space separation is exactly cancelled by the sum of the square of the time-axis separation.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Feb 26 * Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?40Jan Panteltje
5 Feb 26 +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?4Bill Sloman
6 Feb 26 i`* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?3Bill Sloman
6 Feb 26 i `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Jan Panteltje
6 Feb 26 i  `- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Bill Sloman
5 Feb 26 +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?4Martin Brown
5 Feb 26 i`* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?3Jan Panteltje
6 Feb 26 i `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Martin Brown
7 Feb 26 i  `- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Jan Panteltje
5 Feb 26 `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?31Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
5 Feb 26  +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2john larkin
5 Feb 26  i`- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
6 Feb 26  `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?28Jan Panteltje
6 Feb 26   +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?8Bill Sloman
6 Feb 26   i`* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?7Jan Panteltje
6 Feb 26   i `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?6Bill Sloman
7 Feb 26   i  +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Jan Panteltje
7 Feb 26   i  i`- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Bill Sloman
7 Feb 26   i  `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?3Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
7 Feb 26   i   `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Bill Sloman
7 Feb 26   i    `- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
6 Feb 26   `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?19Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
7 Feb 26    `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?18Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
7 Feb 26     `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?17Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
7 Feb 26      `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?16Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
7 Feb 26       +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2john larkin
7 Feb 26       i`- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
7 Feb 26       +- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
8 Feb 26       +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester
8 Feb 26       i`- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Martin Brown
8 Feb 26       `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?10john larkin
9 Feb 26        +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?7Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
9 Feb 26        i`* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?6john larkin
9 Feb 26        i `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?5Jeroen Belleman
9 Feb 26        i  +* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Jan Panteltje
9 Feb 26        i  i`- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Jeroen Belleman
9 Feb 26        i  `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
9 Feb 26        i   `- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
9 Feb 26        `* Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?2Jeroen Belleman
9 Feb 26         `- Re: Is the universe infinite, or does it have a limit?1Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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