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On 10/06/2025 12:14 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:You really need to ease up on the Koolaid, tastes nice, but shortOn Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:16:09 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>Twaddle. Solar panels and wind turbines are the cheapest sources of electricity available - certainly for Australia and Spain.
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>On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 19:15:57 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>>
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The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout, Bjorn Lomborg, Wall Street
Journal, 3 June 2025 issue, page A13.
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Here is a gift link. No paywall, but they will insist on trying to
persuade you to subscribe.
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Joe
What's net zero is the line voltage. The issue is partly spinning
mass, but more important is gross gigawatts available on bad
afternoons.
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Another time bomb is that (cheap) solar panels and inverters and
batteries don't last as long as is assumed in payback calculations. In
10 or 15 years there will be an enormous disposal problem. And lots of
leaky roofs.
Yep. And given the likely end of the mandates and subsidies,
replacement may prove expensive, making the business case less
attractive.
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