Re: more Intel bad news

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Sujet : Re: more Intel bad news
De : theom+news (at) *nospam* chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 28. Jun 2025, 17:12:27
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Organisation : University of Cambridge, England
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Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 29/06/2025 1:01 am, john larkin wrote:
Bean-counting mostly works - more often in a relatively mature
technology. Your list of things that they "messed up" is a bit strange -
I was in England when "ARM" was being invented.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture_family
 
Intel never had a chance to mess it up.

They did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale

It came from DEC, of course. So they both messed it up, in sequence.

Intel was always a customer for EUV lithography, and quite how Philips
ended up doing so well with it (ASML is a Philips spin-off) is a bit of
a mystery. Philips had an electron-beam microfabricator business, and
messed it up badly enough that they sold it off to Cambridge
Instruments. The machine was fine, but the customer service wasn't good
enough.

Philips was good at optics (lighting, medical imaging, LCDs) and the
semiconductor research divisions were really good. Another company to add to
the list of messes.

When your compensation is mostly the value of your stock options,
complicated things like transistors are an annoyance.
 
Not when they are your entire business.
>
Exactly.

Theo

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Jun16:04 * more Intel bad news10john larkin
28 Jun05:43 `* Re: more Intel bad news9Bill Sloman
28 Jun10:09  `* Re: more Intel bad news8Theo
28 Jun16:01   +* Re: more Intel bad news6john larkin
28 Jun16:33   i`* Re: more Intel bad news5Bill Sloman
28 Jun17:12   i `* Re: more Intel bad news4Theo
28 Jun17:58   i  +* Re: more Intel bad news2john larkin
29 Jun05:08   i  i`- Re: more Intel bad news1Bill Sloman
29 Jun04:56   i  `- Re: more Intel bad news1Bill Sloman
29 Jun04:32   `- Re: more Intel bad news1Don Y

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