Sujet : Re: more Intel bad news
De : theom+news (at) *nospam* chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
Groupes : sci.electronics.designDate : 28. Jun 2025, 17:12:27
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Organisation : University of Cambridge, England
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Bill Sloman <
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 29/06/2025 1:01 am, john larkin wrote:
Bean-counting mostly works - more often in a relatively mature
technology. Your list of things that they "messed up" is a bit strange -
I was in England when "ARM" was being invented.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture_family
Intel never had a chance to mess it up.
They did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScaleIt came from DEC, of course. So they both messed it up, in sequence.
Intel was always a customer for EUV lithography, and quite how Philips
ended up doing so well with it (ASML is a Philips spin-off) is a bit of
a mystery. Philips had an electron-beam microfabricator business, and
messed it up badly enough that they sold it off to Cambridge
Instruments. The machine was fine, but the customer service wasn't good
enough.
Philips was good at optics (lighting, medical imaging, LCDs) and the
semiconductor research divisions were really good. Another company to add to
the list of messes.
When your compensation is mostly the value of your stock options,
complicated things like transistors are an annoyance.
Not when they are your entire business.
>
Exactly.
Theo