Re: Expedition to Europa

On a sunny day (Mon, 1 Jul 2024 17:03:32 -0700) it happened Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in <v5vg4n$1a4s7$1@dont-email.me>:

But you (we) are still constrained by your knowledge of physical sciences
(and "interstellar civilizations").  Who's to say that "they" haven't
identified some other observable (by THEM) characteristic of civilization?
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There are a whole slew of questions that you have to consider before you
even worry about "how" to detect (or signal to) other civilizations.
- how much (effort/cost) do you want to detect them?
- how much do THEY want to be detected?
- how can they evade detection (assuming they actively don't want to be found)?
- how much do YOU want to be found?
- what might the consequences of such a detection be?  (e.g., _Remembrance..._
posits an extinction level consequence)

And will our religious fanatic polly-tick-sians and leaders let us know IF life has been detected?
The Mars Viking lander experiment was positive for life.
 http://www.gillevin.com/
I remeber the annoucement,
hours later it was plainly denied, experiment never to me mentioned again..

So not to upset the poepe and earth center of the universe and adam and linda eeeh eva whatever

Adams's claim that "Space is big" can also be accompanied by "Time is LONG".
Do these conspire for or against discovery (or being discovered)?

The microwave background could well be the sum of all the extraterrestial radio and teefee shows ;-0